I have a single TT 56, my buddy Paul a double TT 56. I can attest that the bottle cage braze-ons were lowered to give equal clearance to the bottle, but you do have to reach a bit lower. The difference in feel between the frames is un-noticable to us because of differences in tires and handlebars, which obscure any frame diffs we might be able to feel.
I prefer the single TT, but the Sam is such a fine bike that a double TT shouldn't be a deal breaker, unless you are very light and want a very lively frame (but then you wouldn't want oversized tubing, anyway; instead maybe look at a box dog bike or Boulder Bicycle or Rawland rSogn if you are okay with low trail and no lugs?). Gernot On Jun 7, 10:51 pm, "Darin G." <[email protected]> wrote: > Deal breaker. > > I'm 180-190 and have one of the original 56 cm canti Sams (nome de > guerre: "Ramble 'Rounder). Wonderful and plush commuter, but on the > heavy and sluggish side for lightly laden rides. I don't see how > adding another tube can do anything but further deaden the ride. I've > really pushed this bicycle as an enthusiast's bike that can do it all; > the commute, the lightly loaded tour or overnighter, the charity ride, > the century, the sporty ride with friends (provided you are more fit > than they are). Most of my cycling friends, who are not ignorant > about bicycling or slavishly race-oriented in their tastes, have been > skeptical but willing to consider the benefits of an all 'rounder road > bike and they appreciate the lean but strong lines of my Sam. I don't > think anyone, however, is going to be convinced that the performance > of what was heretofore a stout sport-tourer will be improved by a > second top tube. If they need a beefier bike they've got plenty of > others to consider that don't have the awkward second tube. The > Atlantis comes to mind, the LHT, or the Co-Motion Americano or Nor'- > Wester. If they want a livelier and sportier bike the second-tube > will confirm that the Sam is not for them. The well-heeled may buy up > to the A.H.H. (the single-tubed Sam's upscale analogue), but most will > go elsewhere and I'm afraid I'd have to agree with that choice. > > I think Rivendell is putting out a five-legged chair here. What comes > next? A rickshaw? A sidecar for the Chesapeake Bay retriever? This > will kill the Sam. > > D.G. > > On Jun 5, 12:56 pm, Jay <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? > > I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's > > have the "undertube". > > What does is collective wisdom of this group? > > > BTW I weigh 165 lbs want the bike for commuting and the occasional > > tour. > > > Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
