I've found the VO cages to be underwhelming in build quality - I've had 3 
different styles (type I, II, and moderniste) and two of them have separated at 
the welds, and one of the three wasn't even close to "true" either - e.g. 
crooked lines set-up pre-weld (one of the type I/II - forget which).   


On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Bill Gibson (III) wrote:

> I have and daily enjoy my Klean Kanteens (sp?) both single and double wall 
> bottles. The folks at the company seems to be great, too, it might be a 
> family design and sourcing operation, except the bottles aren't made locally, 
> as in the USA. They sent me a recall notice for one of my bottle caps, then 
> sent me two replacements even though the cap I sent in wasn't defective, so I 
> bought another Klean Kanteen. I'm using them in some Camelback neoprene 
> sleeves in off bike use, and in my Quickbeam's bottle cages in on bike use.  
> I got my Quickeam's cages from Velo Orange. 
> 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cages.html
> 
> I like what Velo Orange is up to almost as much a what Rivendell is up to and 
> want to support both, but...
> 
> I can't think of a better use of the wool in an 
> all-used-up-and-can't-be-darned-any-more-sock-or-sweater than an evaporative 
> cooling sleeve for a feeder bottle. Boil the wool, then use scissors, then 
> sew it up to fit. 
> 
> I remember bike shops selling little wool bottle socks just for that purpose 
> decades ago. At this time of year they dry out in about 1/2 hour in Southern 
> Arizona. Remember those canteens with the wool serape pattern covers? Works.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Rene Sterental <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do they fit on KK Iris cages? I thought they didn't...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4
> 
> On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Zack <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Robert:  You should try one of the double-walled insulated KK
> > bottles!  They are awesome.  You can keep coffee hot and water cold
> > for a pretty good amount of time.  In my experience it's a little
> > better at keeping coffee hot for a while than water cold, but it's
> > still a vast improvement over the single walled KK.
> >
> > -Z
> >
> > On Jun 15, 1:19 pm, "Robert F. Harrison" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I use KKs but I've always put a wet sock around them. This not only stops
> >> the rattling but keeps the water much cooler in the Hawaiian sun. With the
> >> right sock it's not terribly unattractive and as it works well I don't 
> >> worry
> >> about how it looks.
> >>
> >> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg
> >>
> >> <http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg>Aloha!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Darin G. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Those of you using the Kleen Kanteen--do they rattle around?  I
> >>> suspect there is a difference between being secure in the cage and not
> >>> making noise every time you go over a bump.
> >>
> >>> On Jun 15, 6:14 am, John Aydelotte <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> +1 for the King Kage Iris.  I have them on almost all my bikes.  They
> >>>> fit the Klean Kanteen bottles extremely well.
> >>
> >>>> I actually met the guy who makes them at the Rocky Mountain Bicycle
> >>>> Festival this past weekend.  He made most of a cage in front of me in
> >>>> under a minute (not including the part that holds it onto the bike --
> >>>> I think that's welded on).  I am happy to support a local businessman
> >>>> (Durango, CO) who makes such a great product.
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 15, 5:05 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 21:59 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
> >>>>>> King Cage Iris cages.  Not as elegant as the Nittos, but still look
> >>>>>> interesting and have held up well so far (bought earlier this year).
> >>>>>> They carry KK bottles fine, with no need for twine or leather.
> >>
> >>>>> The King Iris is the best cage there is for an under-the-downtube
> >>> upside
> >>>>> down mount, as the weight of the bottle cannot pull the cage open.
> >>
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