The RBW/Nitto q/r for bags can be attached to the lower spring frames on a B-67. I think I still have one attached in my shop -- if so, I'll take a picture tonight.
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Lynn Skean Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RBW] sprung saddle questions Hi, all! I've been debating whether or not to get a Brooks B-67 (which I believe RBW does sell) or a B-72 or Flyer (which I believe RBW doesn't sell). The B-67 and B-72 are are both 210mm wide; the difference is the spring style (standard coil on the B-67, some loop-ity loop arrangement on the B-72). The Flyer is 170mm wide; it is basically a sprung B-17. I'm not (yet) interested in the front-and-rear sprung contraptions such as the B-33/B-190/B-135 or whatever else they have out there.... though I have a friend who gave thought to a black B-33 for his folding bike to establish a "steam punk" motif. I liked that idea. I have used a B-68 (basically a B-67 without springs) in the past. It did not work out well. It was somewhat wider than ideal to begin with. But that was not such a big deal as it "broke in". In fact, it was superbly comfortable for a while (maybe 1,000 miles or so). However, eventually it broke completely; my heft (245# and riding very upright) and the width of the saddle combined to lever the sides of the back of the frame (outside the vertical rail attachments) downward a bit too far. One side eventually broke. Just before it broke, I had probably turned the saddle into a 190mm-wide saddle, as opposed to its original ~210mm. I have used a B-17 and like it fine. It is not as comfortable as the B-68 was at its best. But I can ride it 50+ miles without giving it a second thought. So it's okay.... I'm just wondering whether more comfort is practical with the sprung saddles. My questions, for those of you who are large-ish (or, if you prefer, "have a friend" who is large-ish :)) and who have put 100+ miles on a wider Brooks sprung saddle: What kind of saddle is it? What sort of payload does it carry? (I assume every pound over your ideal body weight is in fact in the backpack you wear on every ride.) Does the spring "give" enough to bottom out on trails or rough-ish roads? Do you have problems with the unsupported outer part of the frame creeping downwards? (I'm wondering whether the spring-y-ness reduces fatigue on the frame so that it might not completely give way in only a couple thousand miles.) For those of you who put substantial mileage on any sprung Brooks saddle... Again, what model? Do the springs generally feel "dynamic" or "static"... that is, do they move significantly/continuously over uneven terrain? Or do they mostly serve to take the edge off of rough roads without much bouncing about? Are the springs noisy in a way that can't be address with a little oil/grease? Lastly, and this is a somewhat forlorn hope... has anyone successfully used a saddle-bag "quick-release" of any kind with any sprung Brooks saddle? I can't see how the RBW-sold Nitto bag quick-release would work... but perhaps there's some way I don't perceive for it or some other brand to be made useful? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who also is liking the idea of the new Brooks "Select" line of saddles -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7GNEYRNBOssJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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