Thanks for all of the positive encouragement friends!

I'm trying to get dad's and my schedule to align to ride the Shoreline West 
Bicycle Tour along the coast of Lake Michigan ... 2 tickets recently became 
available (stars are aligning!) and I think it would be a beautiful way to 
start.  40 - 60 miles a day with some of the most awesome scenery, I'm 
excited and hope it happens.

Now I'm thinking of saddles and setup.  The Raleigh currently has a Brooks 
B68 unsprung saddle with Alba bars which he finds very comfortable.  He 
hasn't tried the B17 for more than 4 minutes but loudly exclaimed "that made 
my butt hurt!" and hopped off :)  It may have not been adjusted properly.

So here are some thoughts:  

B-17 - keeps it traditional, it's a great saddle, although I've recently 
been experiencing some unequal sit-bone sagging with my own ... but I ride a 
ton and weigh 220ish ... so maybe that's to be expected.  The honey would 
look great.  Dad weighs a buck and a half.

Berthoud - flatter, the cork is a sexy color, but wicked expensive and do I 
really want to get into buying berthoud luggage to go with this bike?  ... I 
have enough luggage already ... so maybe not.  then again, there's the 
"oooh, berthoud!" factor.  hrm.  and I've read great reviews of its 
comfortability.  eh ... pass.

B-68 - with 40 years of beausage.  dad likes this and finds it comfortable, 
although we haven't really talked about it.  mostly, he just hasn't 
complained at all!  we probably should discuss what he thinks is comfortable 
and what isn't.  i'll plan for that conversation tonight.  Perhaps I'll pull 
it off of the Raleigh just for a trial on the Saluki.  I'll probably end up 
doing this just to see if he likes it ... 

B-67 - Sprung saddle, same as B-68, just with springs - this monster of a 
saddle is heavy, but what does a few pounds more it really matter as long as 
the rider is comfortable?  I have this on my Bomba right now, and it still 
looks new (okay, really minor sit bone indents).  I'll end up mounting this 
before the B68, probably.

Writing my thoughts down has helped - I think the most important thing is 
talking with dad about saddle fit and understanding where he's comfortable. 
 My hunch is that we'll go with a new B-17 and try it for a few days to make 
sure it's properly adjusted and hitting his sit-bones correctly.  

If we're doing the Shoreline, we'll probably get a few pairs of riding 
shorts and jerseys for him to stay comfortable in.

The Rapha Bib shorts are fantastic - 12 or more hours in the saddle and ZERO 
problems.  I haven't tried Ibex or Andiamo ... hrm.  Riv clothing is right 
in with Dad's style, so we'll probably order a few pairs of MUSA and some 
wool shirts from the RBW.  And shoes ... I haven't tried the Keens but have 
read great things from all of you.  Keen commuters, I'm thinking, with MKS 
Touring pedals, yeah?  The Denver Canvas  and Coronado models look way 
better and provide full foot coverage.  And then there are Addidas Sambas. 
 Hrm.  I suppose it depends on what he wants - clip in or not - and the 
style he most prefers.  Dad is totally not into shopping ... This is going 
to be a challenge!  

What else, Helmet.  Bell is what fits me well, I'll suggest the same to him. 
 I think that's got it covered for now.

Thanks again for reading my thoughts of randomness.  This feels like a blog 
entry.  Maybe I should start one of those.  Hrm.

Amit



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