On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:

>> I remember reading one report where a guy described climbing up an Alpine 
>> road, fully loaded, in a bit over 5 hours.  I got up that same col in 1 1/4 
>> hours.  Maybe he had four times as much fun as I did, I don't know.
> 
> Roughly speaking, hill climbing speed is proportional to total weight,
> for a given person.

Sort of.  But that's not apples and apples, since the time difference is from 
the report of two different people.

> But are you claiming that this dude's total
> weight, which is to say him, his bike and everything he was carrying
> on the bike, was four times as much as what you carry? That is, if
> your total weight of yourself, your bike and your gear is, say, 200
> pounds, this dude was carrying 800 pounds?

In his report he noted he was carrying 80 lbs of gear plus him and his bike.  I 
don't know what he or the bike weighed.  I was carrying less than 15 lbs of 
gear and weighed 207 lbs plus a 25 lb bicycle.  He said it took him a bit over 
five hours, I have to take him at is word on that.  I timed my ride using my 
cyclocomputer.  You'll have to take my word on that.

> I don't think you're saying that. I think you are a fast cyclist, and
> this other dude was a slower cyclist. I think even if you switched
> bikes, you'd still beat him. So why are you harping on weight?

Hmm, since I'm not "harping" on weight I think I struck some kind of nerve in 
this group.  The defensiveness is amazing.

Anyway, since I have no wish to prolong needless conflict in a very pleasant 
mailing list, I am over an out on this.  Haul whatever you like, as I have said 
several times already.  You're the one who's got to pedal it up the hill, not 
me.

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