Hi Jim,

Thanks for the information. The lock I used had the newer "flat" key
not the cylinder type. More proof any lock can be defeated. I still
plan to used multiple locks on the future.

My best,

Tim


On Nov 23, 1:44 pm, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote:
> on 11/23/11 10:08 AM, tthomashardie at [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I used the modified Sheldon method, but through the seat stays rather
> > than the chain stays. The front wheel had a locking skewer. I'm not
> > sure how they got it. The lock was missing too. Some people on the
> > forums suggest that they could have used brute force. Maybe pull-up in
> > cargo van and smash the lock/core and drive off. I really don't know.
> > I do know that true security is a myth and anything can get stolen. In
> > the future I plan to start using two good locks. Sort of a pain to
> > carry around, but it will take twice as long to rip off. An extra
> > couple seconds or minutes could be as good a deterrent as anything.
>
> General locking instructions and theories have been covered well, and they
> all lead to the same conclusion - if you leave it locked, you may lose it.
> The longer it's left, the more likely the lift.  The more you leave it in
> the same place each time, the more times a potential theif has to evaluate
> the coinditions. The best you can hope for is diverting a low-tech thief to
> another, less well defended bicycle.
>
> However, something in your description caught my eye, and it was a topic I
> was related to another person over the weekend - if you have a Kryptonite
> lock from 8-10 years ago with an open-end lock that uses a cylinder type
> key, they are prone to attacks with - believe it or not - a Bic pen cylinder
> (or similar - this is not a case of French constructeur superiority...).
>
> Basically, you can work the open end of the pen barrel into the lock and
> smoosh it around for a while until it pushes out the tumblers and then twist
> it around to open the lock. There was a well-travelled video of this, a
> subsequent recall from Kryptonite (pretty sure now discontinued) and much
> internet chatter.
>
> But, as I was helping a friend work on his son's bike, there it was - that
> prototypical krypto with that exact lock type. And he asked me if it was a
> good lock...
>
> This doesn't apply to the newer, middle of the hasp, slotted key types.
>
> - Jim "All bikes weigh 40#'s.  (Weight of bike) + (Weight of lock) = 40"
>
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