Dusty-
I would really love to see a review of the difference between the Stanyan and 
the San Marcos. Both are made and built in the same place, and distributed by 
SOMA, but the San Marcos has Grant's design.

If you get around to posting a detailed comparison, I would be so happy!

Thanks,
Sean

--- On Thu, 1/26/12, DustyMerkin <samcoal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: DustyMerkin <samcoal...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Is the San Marcos a true Rivendell?
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 9:25 PM
> I own a San Marcos frame, and had a
> Rambouillet a few years back.  The
> San Marcos is built to the same quality as the Ram but uses
> nicer
> lugs, at least nicer looking.  The bottom bracket is
> actually stamped
> "Rivendell"!  In terms of ride quality, that is still
> up in the air
> since I have actually not built it up to ride.  I have
> a 2TT version
> and I'm really surprised at how light it is, actually feels
> about the
> same as my Soma Stanyan.
> 
> On Jan 26, 5:50 pm, Bill Carter <billcar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Pat,
> > I am an "older" rider also, and I own a Heron road
> which is a similar
> > bike, designed by Grant back in the day, made by
> Waterford and
> > distributed through a special Heron dealer network but
> also sold by
> > Riv.  I bought and built it new about eight years ago,
> and for me it
> > rides better than anything, including a Waterford 1250
> that I also
> > have in my stable.  It's handling is quick and sporty,
> but
> > predicatable and confidence inspiring in a way that is
> hard to
> > describe, and it takes long downhills like nobody's
> business.  It
> > truly is the last bike I'd give up, and most Riv
> afficionados regard
> > the Heron as in the family, if not a "true Rivendell."
>  I received one
> > of the Riv headbadge logo decals in an order from RBW
> HQ, slapped that
> > sucker on the seat tube, so now I am all set!  At
> least until it peals
> > off.   Best thing about it is that if you find you
> don't like the SOMA
> > San Marcos (not likely), it should be easy to sell and
> recoup at least
> > most of your investment.  The SOMA line has a
> following of its own,
> > and when when you combine that with the Riv connection
> (much like my
> > Waterford made Heron)you can appeal to two groups of
> loyalists.
> > Best of luck, and let the list know what you decide.
>  Oh, and we do
> > like pictures.
> > Bill Carter
> >
> > On Jan 24, 5:52 pm, Pat <revfirstsh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi, Folks,
> >
> > > I am an "old guy" (almost 64) and just finished my
> second year of cycling.
> > > I put in 4200 miles last year on a carbon frame
> bike which I like, but I'm
> > > looking around for something more comfortable for
> longer rides and light
> > > touring. I ran across the Rivendells a couple of
> months ago. I like what
> > > I'm reading and I'm esp interested in the Sam
> Hillborne and San Marcos.
> >
> > > Do you Riv owners consider the San Marcos a true
> Rivendell? Can I expect
> > > the same quality ride, etc. from the San Marcos as
> I would the other Riv
> > > bikes? (I'm asking because it doesn't bear the Riv
> name.)
> >
> > > Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
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