Take a look at Rawland. Frames are around $700, but they fit wide tires, use light steel tubing, and are built for comfort. You may be able to get them on special occasionally in the $500 range, too.
Mobile Brian Hanson On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:42 AM, cyclotourist <[email protected]> wrote: > Peter M: Yeah, I get that, and don't think that's the answer. I'm not > looking for a low-end Rivendell, but an other brand that has the > qualities of a Riv but for around $500. Springy steel (not light > touring) tig w/ all the Riv features (as above). I don't need a $2, $3 > or $4,000 bike, but one for around $1K or a $500 frameset would be > awesome to have. I'd buy that but I'm not going to buy a new Soma bike > or a Sam. Those are too nice and too much $$$ for what I'm thinking > of. Something to compete w/ the 80's Trek, Univegas, Nishikis, etc > that started this conversation. Why get an old bike, powdercoat it, > put money into rebuilding it w/ modern parts and still not have it fit > the tire you want and then worry about the head tube or BB cracking. > Something off the shelf that does everything I/we need it to at a > Surly/Salsa price. > > Jay in TA: Yes, that's definitely the closest out there, but not quite > it. Something between that and a Surly Pacer. No cantis, and with > vertical drop outs. If Salsa did that, I'd have a new bike! See, > they're almost there, but not quite. The previous Casseroll was more > like it, but it had that ugly fork and too slopey of a TT. But I could > get over those and would prefer them to cantis/horizontal. I'm semi-on > the look out for one as it is. > > /rant > > On 2/18/12, Jay in Tel Aviv <[email protected]> wrote: >> I would think that the new (2011) Salsa Casseroll fits that >> description quite well, >> albeit with cantis, which to my mind are a perfectly fine solution. >> >> I went back and forth for a while between that and the Sam I ended up >> getting this summer. >> FWIW the decision came down to Riv being able to confidently recommend >> what size to get, which Salsa couldn't. I was ordering remotely on a >> tight schedule so that ended up being the critical factor for me. >> Pretty sure the Salsa would have done the job almost as well for a lot >> less $. >> >> >> >> Jay >> >> On Feb 18, 6:28 pm, cyclotourist <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Question: is there a truly budget minded bike that compares to a >>> Rivendell? Something tig welded but lively and clearance for fat >>> tires? It would be great if Grant could work with someone (Kona, >>> Surly, Voodoo???) to come up with a made in Taiwan scorcher country >>> bike. >>> Tigged, powdercoated, traditional top tube (non-compact/expanded >>> frame), tall headtube with threadless stem, spot on clearance for 57mm >>> brakes, 430mm or so stays, $500. That's what the world needs. >>> >>> On 2/18/12, trek610 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Very pretty build - I like way it has turned out. Very tasteful >>>> selection >>>> in components. >>> >>>> Any thoughts on the ride VS the LHT? >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BfLiGYMPXSoJ. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> David >>> Redlands, CA >>> >>> ** >>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an >>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s >>> the America I love.” >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > ** > “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an > America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s > the America I love.” > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
