I have a PBH of 98cm (as best I can tell), saddle height of 86.5cm and
my height is 191cm.

I just built up a 64cm Sam Hillborne and it fits absolutely splendid,
fits as I would expect a custom to fit. I have a Brooks shoved all the
way back on a lugged seatpost and a Dirtdrop/Moustache cockpit and it
feels like just the right reach and more than enough height. I have it
set 3cm above the saddle and could probably get 7-8 above if I
wanted.

I can contrast this with a 64cm Quickbeam that I bought impulsively
and as my first Rivendell, and I wish I had gotten a 68. I was
irrationally freaked out about buying such a big bike, fearing things
like top tube clearance and just unfamiliarity with the concept (as
I'd never been able to find a good fitting bike on the cheap), but it
was a bad call. I can tell you from personal experience with having
very similar proportions to you that sizing up when in doubt has
resulted in a perfect fitting bike for me.

On Feb 25, 2:14 pm, Lugmonster <suraj.shanmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I live in Australia and am thinking of picking up a Riv, either a
> Hillborne or a Hilsen. Given shipping issues etc. I'm sweating over
> picking the right sized frame. My PBH is 94cm but my height is only
> 186cm ie. I have a pretty long bottom half and short top half. The
> folks at Riv are suggesting that I should be looking at a 64cm
> Hillborne or a 65cm Hilsen.
>
> Now this to me seems massive, as I seem to be comfortable on an
> effective top tube length of about 570mm on a standard racing bike
> (56-68cm frame). Any top tube past 580mm and I feel like its a bit of
> a stretch. I'm therefore thinking of maybe a smaller Hilsen (?63) or a
> 60cm Hillborne.
>
> I do appreciate that the bars will be higher thus shortening the
> distance to handlebars but still it seems like those frames are a bit
> stretched out for me. Anyone with a similar build who has had
> experiences positive or negative with Riv sizing? Could you provide
> some advice? Thanks!

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