Like Patrick, I will always pull as far to the left as I safely can and, if
I hear a vehicle come up from behind, will make eye contact and motion
they're free to make a right. When the light changes, I get through as
quickly as possible and move rightward.

Cheers!

lyle

On 21 March 2012 14:29, Jay <[email protected]> wrote:

> The driver was asking nicely?
> I'd move over if I reasonably could.
> If he was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear him. My ears are funny
> that way.
>
> Jay
>
> On Mar 21, 8:23 pm, Peter Morgano <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hmm, I often encount situations like this riding in NYC. The difference
> is
> > that though I know what the laws are and the drivers dont I am still a
> dude
> > on a 30lb bike and they are driving a 2 ton missle that can crush me
> like a
> > bug.  I will usually err on the side of "courteousness" even though I
> will
> > grumble under my breath about how I had the right of way or when some
> idiot
> > honks at me for just having the audacity to rid on thier roads but again,
> > they can kill us and we cant do much to them. I find this is especially
> > true in NYC where the Village Voice has finally torn the lid off of a
> > systematic plan by the NYPD to blame all bike related injuries and
> > fatalities on bike riders and hardly ever if at all on the drivers of
> cars
> > since the NYPD is not in favor of increased ridership advocated by the
> > transportation commissioner Sadik-Khan.  So I would say, there is a time
> to
> > stand your ground and a time to realize you are at the position of
> > vulnerability and to just complain when you get home or on this list
> even.
> > I know there are people who will see this as being too capitulating but
> as
> > a grown man with kids at home I have to prioritize safety over pride.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Liesl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
> > > on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
> > > for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
> > > you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
> > > just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
> > > bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
> > > right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
> > > came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
> > > she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
> > > change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
> > > light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
> > > and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
> > > refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
> > > getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
> > > sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
> > > heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: "I'm
> > > sorry I made you wait 40 seconds."
> >
> > > Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
> > > your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
> > > moved over and didn't think much about it.
> >
> > > The trees are leafing out here a full month early.
> >
> > > Liesl
> >
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