very informative, as I want a broad range of gears. I have never had a
bike with only a double crank in front.

On Apr 4, 7:08 pm, islaysteve <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have 105 and like it a lot.  But lately I'm favoring a compact double
> crank (Sugino), and as far as I can tell, with the road groups (105,
> Ultegra, etc), you are limited in the size of the rear cogs.  So I've come
> to the conclusion that if I want to keep the compact double and have a
> versatile range of gears, I need to go to the mountain rear derailleurs,
> which is what Riv sells.  But IMO it must be Shimano and silver.  Of course
> none of this would preclude using the Herse crank.  Steve
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:34:04 PM UTC-4, Greg J wrote:
>
> > You mention that you have Shimano 105 parts currently.  You don't mention
> > how old they are, but if they are from the mid-2000s, then you pretty much
> > have technology that is lighter and as technically advanced as anything you
> > will get from Riv (or anything this group will recommend, except for Jim's
> > SRAM, and even that I don't know would be any lighter or better
> > functioning).
>
> > Functionally and value-wise, the 105 group pretty much can't be beat.
> >  Everything else is for fun (which is really what most of us here
> > do---friction / non-aero levers / etc. for the fun of it).  Or going
> > lighter because you can.  Dura Ace is Shimano's best and lightest, then
> > Ultegra, then 105.
>
> > The fancy boutique parts manufacturers include Paul (brakes, levers),
> >  Phil (hubs/bottom brackets), Chris King (hubs/headsets), White Industries
> > (hubs).  Around here, Nitto parts and Grand Bois parts also get high marks.
> >  Any of these would put the bling in your bike and make it more unique and
> > win the admiration of us bike-geeks.
>
> > Greg
>
> > On Sunday, April 1, 2012 5:53:19 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> but I this time I want it rebuilt a bit lighter with upgraded
> >> technology.

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