Interesting questions, Phil. As the owner, I've wondered the same thing about a few of them.
It is a standard Atlantis from either the 2000 or 2001 batch. (I got it in 2001.) I think it was from the second batch ever made. Early on, the Atlantis evolved a bit in that the very early 700C ones might not have had the same clearance as one from like 2004 or so. I recall being told in 2001 that a real 2 inch knobby wouldn't fit so well in the rear on mine while on future Atlantis's, it would. When I brought the frame in to discuss repaint a year ago, Mark helped me to mark where the fork mini-rack braze-ons should go, and we did it based on my desired use of the Nitto mini-rack (unless I messed up at the time and said mini-Mark's rack which is possible!) Once the bike was repainted, I immediately noticed how close the rack braze-ons were to the brake posts, but I was already using V-brakes so I wasn't worried. (It did prevent me from switching to Tektro cantis, as I had intended.) Michael asked why I went with V's. A few years ago, when Rivendell started selling the Tektro V-Brake lever, I loved the shape and wanted to try it, and at the same time, they had Deore V-Brakes at a good bargain. So I went for it. I like them. Yes, the same builder made all the additions to my Atlantis at the time of the repaint: dogbone mini-rack mounts front and rear, kickstand plate, braze-ons on the fork crown. Interesting that you mention the tire clearance being larger than normal. I wouldn't have expected that to be greater on mine than on later Atlantis's. Are you referring specifically to tire clearance above the tire? I've had fenders on my Atlantis before, and in the front, they sit WAY higher than the tire, and it looks a little weird. I had figured that all Atlantis's were this way, but I've never really compared mine to others in this detail. The high fender seems consistent with an observation that the clearance above the tire is large. So to sum up, my Atlantis was a standard one for 2001, but maybe being an early one, it now seems atypical in a few regards compared to the majority of the frames made in the bike's 12 year history. I already figured that when I saw how close the mini-rack braze-ons are to the brake posts. I know current Atlantis's on Rivbike are not like that; there is more room, which means that now the braze-ons are lower than they are on mine. So now, let me think, extra high vertical clearance above the tire would be consistent with the rack braze-on being closer to the brakes, right? So does this mean that on my Atlantis, and presumably on the other early ones, the fork crown was just higher above the wheel axle than they are now? Does that mean my head tube is shorter, and my fork blades are longer? FWIW, another way that mine and the other early 64's were different is that they have 62 cm top-tubes on the 64 cm frame size. The majority of 64's that came later had 60 cm top-tubes. -Jim W. p.s. When I get home, I'll do the measurement that William mentioned. -----Original Message----- >From: Phil Bickford <phi...@sonic.net> >Sent: Apr 29, 2012 12:41 PM >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >Subject: [RBW] Re: I could bend the CrMo Nitto rack to make it level, right? > >While we wait with bated breath for Michael's reply with the measurement, I'd >thought I would call attention to the distance between the brake post braze-on >and the rack braze-on. Does anyone else think they are a bit close? > >Is this a standard Atlantis 2 (that does mean it's a 700c?) fork for >cantilever brakes, though he is running v-brakes? He mentioned added >braze-ons on top of the fork crown. Did the same builder install the present >(dogbone) braze-ons? > >I wouldn't go bending the present rack with out answering these questions. >Oh, and another one. Does anyone else think the tire clearance look larger >than normal for JBs? > >Phil B > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To view this discussion on the web visit >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nksA0QUuD-YJ. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
