Replying to Jim: Jim, the difference between the only really nice
cantis I've used, the IRCs that came stock on my ersthwhile Sam Hill,
and all the Vs and Avid BB7s I've used, is noticeable. The IRCs were
easily as powerful as the Vs and probably more powerful than the
Avids, but the power was fully linear: squeeze harder, gradually, and
the retardation increased in direct proportion. Vs and, even more, my
BB7s, require a much more finicky touch if they are not to grab.

This is not a big deal: the "grabbiness" is minor in the overall
cosmic scheme of things, but it is indeed noticeable.

Me, I still generally prefer, in order, BB7s (for ease of wheel
changes and setup and power), Vs (ease of setup and power) and only in
third place cantis. (I leave out calipers which I like for road bikes;
this comparo is for off road bikes.)

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:58 PM, EricP <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have my SimpleOne set up with 720s and my Sam Hillborne with Deore V
> brakes.  I do notice a difference.  The 720s modulate, but they don't stop
> as well, IMO.  At least not quickly.  Had to really plan out a stop at the
> bottom of a descent today.  Eventually will swap pads to see if that helps.
> If not, maybe new brakes in the future.
>
> Luckily, did not need to strip finish off my brake bosses.  If so, I would
> have just cut a strip of sandpaper and buffed the post like I was shining a
> shoe.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:01:09 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder why folks value modulation so highly? In my view, the primary
>> purpose of brakes is to stop effectively, and therefore, the more powerful
>> brake is my usual preference. With v-brakes, scrubbing speed in tight
>> downhill corners or whatever isn't difficult at all to modulate, UNLESS you
>> are accustomed to squeezing the bejeezus out of cantilevers to get the same
>> result, in which case the v-brake will seem to lack modulation. In that
>> case, the brake is hard to modulate because the rider has no finesse on the
>> brake lever. No problem though, because it's easy to learn the necessary
>> finesse.
>>
>>
>>>
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