What is the 'cow-milking' to which you refer? -JimD On May 11, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> This is wrong. I ride almost everyday with v-brakes, and find that I can > apply the brakes in a wide range of modulation from zero to "locked". After > years with cantilevers, the first time with the added power of v-brakes did > take some practice to modulate (two or three stops was enough practice), but > now when I ride others' bikes with cantilevers, I get scared when I squeeze > the lever and nothing happens beyond a hissing noise (until I squeeze really > hard, which I can because I have strong hands). Most women and lots of men > don't have cow-milking hand-strength and can't effectively use cantilevers > with aero levers, but v-brakes will work well even for those who have less > than a kung-fu grip. > > I just put some Avid Elixir 5 hydraulic discs on my Surly Disc Trucker. Now > THAT is a powerful brake. > > > On Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:32:54 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:02 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > I wonder why folks value modulation so highly? In my view, the primary > > purpose of brakes is to stop effectively, and therefore, the more > > powerful brake is my usual preference. > > It's because when I put the brakes on I do not always want to lock them. > Sometimes I just want to slow down a little bit, without locking the > brakes. > > > With v-brakes, scrubbing speed in tight downhill corners or whatever > > isn't difficult at all to modulate, UNLESS you are accustomed to > > squeezing the bejeezus out of cantilevers to get the same result, in > > which case the v-brake will seem to lack modulation. In that case, the > > brake is hard to modulate because the rider has no finesse on the > > brake lever. No problem though, because it's easy to learn the > > necessary finesse. > > Right. If you want full lock, touch the levers, or just blow on them. > If you want anything else, keep your hands in your pockets and your lips > sealed. We call that "modulation." > > 8=) > > > > > On Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:32:54 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:02 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > I wonder why folks value modulation so highly? In my view, the primary > > purpose of brakes is to stop effectively, and therefore, the more > > powerful brake is my usual preference. > > It's because when I put the brakes on I do not always want to lock them. > Sometimes I just want to slow down a little bit, without locking the > brakes. > > > With v-brakes, scrubbing speed in tight downhill corners or whatever > > isn't difficult at all to modulate, UNLESS you are accustomed to > > squeezing the bejeezus out of cantilevers to get the same result, in > > which case the v-brake will seem to lack modulation. In that case, the > > brake is hard to modulate because the rider has no finesse on the > > brake lever. No problem though, because it's easy to learn the > > necessary finesse. > > Right. If you want full lock, touch the levers, or just blow on them. > If you want anything else, keep your hands in your pockets and your lips > sealed. We call that "modulation." > > 8=) > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/khkKENpxpbgJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
