Every type of part or frame that can be used to make or accessorize a 
bicycle can break. As my mechanic Mongo says, bikes are a wear item. Even 
things made of lugged steel break more often than some here might believe. 
I have never been impressed by CF, mostly because it doesn't fit my 
personality on various levels. But I don't believe that riding a bike with 
a carbon fork is statistically more stupid/dangerous than riding a bike in 
general. If I crash hard or get hit by a car, the material that comprises 
my frame and fork is likely the least of my concerns. Of all the risk of 
riding a bike, having my fork snap off is pretty far down the list.

Ride whatever type of bike you like, and be sensible about basic safety, 
and you will probably be ok. The types of bikes I like are steel and have 
fat tires and lots of threaded holes in various handy locations.

On Friday, July 13, 2012 4:51:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Forgot to add that I *have*& broken a steel fork but it let me down 
> gently, I have never ridden crabon fibre. 
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > Scott: Here's some solidarity for you. I have owned four Rivs (3 
> > customs, one Sam Hill) and still have the two later customs, both 
> > fixed gears, one with fat (32 mm) tires, dynolight and rack, t'other a 
> > stripper gofast (just did a brief hilly ride and it is FUN!). I do 
> > agree with the other poster that, after all, this is a Riv list and so 
> > a sort of focus is to be expected; but OTOH, there is more to Rivs 
> > than high bars, shellac and fancy luggage: for me, the essence of 
> > Rivendellianishness is not lugs, fancy paint or pretty luggage, but 
> > **fit** and **handling** -- every time (and I've bleated about this 
> > for, what, 15 years now -- I get back onto a Riv after riding some 
> > other bike that I've decided is very, very nice, I re-experience 
> > fit/handling Nirvana. All the better, sez I, if one of those Rivs is a 
> > low (ish -- I'm 57) bar'd, skinny tired, stripped down gofast that, 
> > dammit, climbs like nothing else! 
> > 
> > Every group focused on a more or less common goal, theory or value 
> > tends to become somewhat insular and exclusive and to "corral the 
> > wagons" against outside opinions. That is true of this list; OTOH, 
> > this list is, IMO, pretty mellow overall despite the occasional snark. 
> > 
> > Patrick "my next quasi Rivendellianish bike is to be a carbon fibre ss 
> > 29er with 500 gram crabon fiber fork" Moore -- if only I had the 
> > money! 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Scott Henry <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >> Nope, I don't personally know too many people on this list.  I have 
> only met 
> >> a few so personally so I have to judge the group based upon what people 
> here 
> >> post. 
> >> 
> >> I'll say that without a doubt, there are many bicycling fans here but 
> >> ,OVERALL, the group is very focused only on one type of bike.  Its just 
> >> weird to me that here and on the iBob list there are many people who 
> only 
> >> consider bicycles that fit into the Riv stereotype.  Now on the old 
> serrota 
> >> list (now The Paceline Forum) and even on velocipede salon they tend to 
> >> appriciate all bikes.  Those two groups most definately cater towards 
> the 
> >> faster crowd but they also apreciate and enjoy the Riv type of slow, 
> heavy, 
> >> comfort bicycles. 
> >> 
> >> As for what started my intial post, who here has had a carbon 
> frame/fork 
> >> break, fail or bend? 
> >> OK, now who here has had a steel frame/fork break, bend or fail? 
> >> 
> >> As for me, I will keep riding all types of bicycles not just those of 
> one 
> >> small type. 
> >> 
> >> Scott Henry 
> >> Dayton, OH 
> >> come see me 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Peter Morgano <[email protected]> 
>
> >> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I like bikes. It just seems around here that you can either drink the 
> >>> koolaid or enjoy bikes, very few of you can seemingly do both. 
> >>> Scott 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Its like you know us...oh wait, you don't.  So stop being so 
> >>> condescending. 
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Scott Henry <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well, If thats how you are measuring things, i've had two steel froks 
> >>>> bend.  One aluminum fork come unglued. 
> >>>> I've never had a carbon fork bend, break, snap or do anything other 
> that 
> >>>> work 100% perfectly. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I've had plenty of all three type going back to my first EMS fork in 
> the 
> >>>> early 90s. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Guess how stupid that is. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I like bikes.  It just seems around here that you can either drink 
> the 
> >>>> koolaid or enjoy bikes, very few of you can seemingly do both. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Scott 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Joe Bernard <[email protected]> 
> >>>> wrote: 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I make no apologies for my "divisiveness" about CF forks. Any 
> product 
> >>>>> supporting the front wheel of a bicycle which snaps instead of 
> bending is 
> >>>>> stupid. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
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