Steve,

I am sorry but I won't spend time culling for quotes with citations.
Clearly "stiffer" and "faster" are objective terms regardless of who
uses them.
>From reading the section of Jan's blog referenced at the start of this
thread (the post and associated comments) my impression is that he is
convinced a bike built with the right amount of flexibility is faster
than a stiffer one because of it's greater flexibility (or
equivalently the others greater stiffness), that bikes built with
oversized tubes are usually or almost always too stiff in this
respect, and that a bike that is too stiff is a poor (subjective term
there) performance bike because its excess stiffness makes it slower
than a properly designed (subjective term there) bike with the right
flex.
>From posts in this thread I conclude he has demonstrated this effect
experimentally and does not consider it a matter of opinion.

If I have misconstrued his meaning I certainly regret it.
Please consider anything I have written about what he thinks or writes
retracted.

On Aug 7, 11:14 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 21:42 -0700, ted wrote:
> > Certainly fads or styles or whatever have ebbed and flowed over
> > whether or not a noodly frame is undesirable, or how stiff is stiff
> > enough, or if stiff is harsh and uncomfortable, or whatever, but I
> > think Jan is fairly unique in claiming categorically that the right
> > flex is faster, and enough faster that a stiff bike can't be a good
> > "performance" bike.
>
> Citation, please.

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