I would rather discuss the aspects of drying paint than this Lance stuff.
This has nothing to do with my continued frustration in adjusting the
cantis on my Bombadil, I think the pads are too toed in.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> That's not what the judge said according to all the news articles I saw.
> What I saw reported was that the judge determined that USADA had
> jurisdiction and that the case belonged in that process. In his opinion
> the court had no reason to intervene- Lance brought it to court trying to
> get the process stopped, the USADA did not file the case in the court.
>
> As a former bike racing fan for some 40 years, I followed the Tour de
> France and a hundred other races every year very closely. Lance was a star
> rider before his cancer and his comeback to win his first Tour was
> tremendous. And then he won year after year with famous (and infamous)
> determination and drive.
>
> Then the doping stories came out. Not about Lance but about the racers he
> defeated at the top of the leader board and the also-rans. And I started
> wondering how a man could dominate, year after year, a field full of
> dopers. The obvious answer was that he was doping too and that he was a
> lot better at it than his competitors. I tried to give him the benefit of
> the doubt and defended him, but the obvious became too obvious.
>
> Doping in pro cycling is a very long tradition dating back since the start
> of the sport. I think that accounts for the willingness of the UCI and
> race organizers to look the other way. In Europe, pro cycling is big money
> and money buys closed eyes; a lot of money buys a lot of closed eyes- sort
> of like Congress and lobbyists. Pro bike racing seems to be about as
> honest as professional wrestling.
>
> So I came to believe that Lance doped. I watched closely as Floyd Landis
> and Tyler Hamilton and Jan Ullrich and others proclaimed their innocence
> and waged a media battle and sometimes bizarre legal battles. Now we've
> seen Lance sounding exactly like Floyd and Tyler: strident and whiny.
> Lance even pulled out the "unconstitutional" card, claiming that the
> lawfully created American oversight body for sports and doping doesn't have
> the authority to oversee HIM. Funny that he didn't make that argument when
> it was Floyd and Tyler in the crosshairs. Lance also forgot the truth that
> "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," as he invoked the
> Constitution to hide behind.
>
> So what we are left with is a tacit admission of guilt by Lance Amstrong.
> The strong suspicion must be that he gave up the fight not because it was
> unfair or unconstitutional but because he was going to lose. By quitting
> now he protects some ambiguity. Why is this important? Because Lance was
> paid millions of taxpayer dollars as a professional athlete whose results
> were the result of cheating. He appears to have perpetrated fraud against
> the American people personally and financially. This actually is a big
> deal.
>
> It's also got nothing to do with RBW and we probably shouldn't discuss it
> here, come to think of it. There are plenty of other venues.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Marc Irwin <irwin7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What is also inevitable is a protest and appeal by the UCI. They have
> protested the jurisdiction of the USADA since the case was introduced and
> the judge in Dallas told the USADA they didn't have a case worthy of judge
> to hear. Oh well, it seems the races are "cleaner" now, except for Bradley
> Wiggins' mouth.
>
> Marc
>
> On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:37:40 AM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
>>
>> Seems inevitable, really, either because Lance *is* guilty of doping or
>> because, by consistently beating others shown to have been doping, he so
>> tested the objectivity of the testing agencies that they could never be
>> happy until they convicted him. I doubt we've heard the last of this,
>> though. . .
>>
>> lyle
>>
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>> On 24 August 2012 01:47, Jim Cloud <clou...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just picked this up from internet traffic:
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/lance-**armstrong-stripped-tour-**
>>> france-titles-internet-shock-**233032763.html<http://news.yahoo.com/lance-armstrong-stripped-tour-france-titles-internet-shock-233032763.html>
>>>
>>> Jim Cloud
>>> Tucson, AZ
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