Not be banal but Rivendell bikes are lugged steel bikes. I dont think a CF
bike with 25c tires is really "Rivish" at all, I mean how far are we going
to strech a made up term anyway? Not hating on that kind of bike at all,
rode one I have up at the parents house over the weekend and while it was
really fun it would not be my choice for longer rides and comfort.  I an
world where I had all the money I wanted to spend on bikes I would have a
calfee and a riv custom, oh and a trike, and a Tandem, and a folder, and a
fixie, and a full suspension mtb. But alas I only have a few bikes and cant
personally limit myself to CF that isnt comfy/practical for all day riding
over city streets.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Brewster Fong <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Monday, August 27, 2012 10:44:02 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Or maybe they'll just think you're crazy, jinxed. :-)
>>
>> I've been dropping Riv-ish tid bits on my bike-commuting bro-in-law for a
>> couple years. He's even ridden my AHH and a friend's loaner Riv-ish Schwinn
>> High Sierra. He seems responsive in conversation and had nothing but high
>> praise for Homer and the Schwinn, but in the end his first criteria remains
>> that a bike has to be sub-18lbs. He talks about getting a more comfortable
>> bike with all the Riv-ish tid bits and fit but he can't bring himself to
>> buy a "heavy" bike.
>>
>
> I don't get it, do you have to ride a "heavy" lugged steel bike that is
> built with fenders, racks and panniers to make a bike "Riv-ish?"
>
> My bikes are carbon and ti and I make them "Riv-ish" by doing alot of what
> Grant prescribes:
>
> 1. higher bars - my bars are at or a bit above the saddle height
> 2. saddle height - both of my bikes have a little bit more than a "fist
> full of seatpost" showing
> 3. tires - I run "fatter" tires than most of my friends. Instead of
> 700x20/22/23 pumped up to 115-120psi; I ride a 700x25 tire pumped up to 80
> psi. I get plenty of comfort with, at least for me, no perceptible loss of
> "performance."
> 4. wider saddle - I love Avocet O2 saddles because they are wider than the
> average "ass-hatchet," opps, I mean bike saddle that mean for a guy
> weighing in at 140lb. This means more comfort for my fat butt!
> 5. lower gearing - I have compact cranks iwth low gearing (48/33 and
> 48/34) for years because its not only good on my knees, but allow me to
> climb up the steep stuff. Grant's been advocating this for years. Now,
> almost all my buddies have gone to "compact" cranks and some have even gone
> to, gasp, triples....
> 6. fenders - when I can fit it, depends on the carbon fork, I use Crud MK2
> fenders. They're pretty minimal, especially when compared to others, and a
> bit flimsy, but guess what, they work! The key is figuring out whether you
> have clearance under the fork - especially a carbon fork.
>
> Anyways, my carbon bike weighs in at about 17lb; the ti bike weighs a bit
> more at about 18lb. Yes, there are plenty of things on my bikes that G
> would looked down upon - ergo levers, carbon frame/fork. Still, I've taken
> what I think works for me and apply them to my bikes to make them work. You
> may want to aim your bro-in-law into that direction, who know he may end up
> with a Riv custom one of these days....Good Luck!
>
>>
>> --Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:34:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and
>>>> continues to do some things that we benefit from.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW
>>> to do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to
>>> someone not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to
>>> cycling.
>>>
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