Thanks for the correction! Discs aren't really my forte... obviously! On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:18:24 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote: > > That's not exactly true. Unless specifically noted, most cable-actuated > disk brakes are set up for long cable pull, the same as v-brakes and are > only compatible with long-pull levers. There are a few short-pull specific > calipers, such as a couple of models of the Avid "BB" range that > specifically have a "road" version. I think a couple of other > manufacturers (Formula, Tektro) are starting to come out with short-pull > road models (those are probably what you're seeing on disc cross bikes), > but they are still relatively thin on the ground. > > The current crop of cross and road bikes use cable discs mostly because > nobody's come out with a hydraulic drop-bar lever yet, and any of the > conversion systems (I've seen one involving cable-actuated master cylinders > under the stem) don't quite seem refined enough yet. However, at Eurobike > this past week Colnago was showing off disc road bikes with a hydraulic, > electronic brifter (for either Campy EPS or Shimano Di2) they had designed > with Formula. > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:23:00 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: >> >> I've never used any disc brakes, so I cant comment on performance, but >> one advantage of cable discs is that you can use any normal, standard-pull >> brake lever - brifter, mtb, inverse, guidonnet, etc.. This is why the >> 'cross and road disc bikes now hitting the shows use mostly cable discs. >> This will eventually change, of course, as road discs seem to be the Next >> Big Thing that Trekalized will push on the road riding masses, so hydraulic >> STI levers cant be too far off. For me, however, part of the Riv ethos is >> the idea that you can freely mix and match parts to suit. I've already >> messed this up a bit for myself with V-brakes, but at least you can find a >> lever that is convertible from short to long pull. Not sure if there is a >> lever than can convert from hydraulic to cable. >> >> Another HUGE advantage to disc brakes, for the Riv and Bob folks, is you >> can use any wheel size your heart desires! As long as the frame has the >> right clearances, (and what Riv frame wouldn't?), you could pick 700c, 650b >> or even 26 at will. Sure, fender mounting could be tricky, but it's a lot >> easier to find fender mounting work-arounds than it is to move canti bosses. >> >> -Pete in CT >> >> On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:37:17 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: >>> >>> Or hydraulic brakes... I've been riding both cable and hydraulic disc >>> brakes for years, and I'm here to tell you, hydraulic Shimano's (the older >>> style) are the bee's knees... I've never had issues with busted brake lines >>> or poor performance... They're easy to maintain and super dependable, way >>> more dependable than rim brakes! And even the best-adjusted cable-actuated >>> disc brakes can't come close to the hydraulics. The price has come way >>> down on hydraulic brakes... there are few reasons left to go with cable >>> discs... I've been running them on my mountain bikes for years in all kinds >>> of rought weather conditions (including ice and snow). THEY STOP in all >>> kinds of weather! >>> >>> I'd love to see a disc version Rivendell...although I fear it would >>> require a beefier fork (for the forces applied to the lower section of the >>> fork). This might be a challenge to make a beefier fork that looks >>> elegant. Then again, I'll bet it's possible to preserve the beauty in a >>> disc version.. Wes Williams (for example) makes a beautifully curved 29er >>> disc fork (the Willits WOW). I love the look of rim brakes, but >>> performance wise there's simply no contest between rim and disc brakes. >>> >>> Peace, >>> BB >>> >>> On Monday, September 3, 2012 5:53:11 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like it if this bike were made ready for disc brakes. >>>> Mechanical ones. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
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