Thanks for the correction! Discs aren't really my forte... obviously!

On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:18:24 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> That's not exactly true.  Unless specifically noted, most cable-actuated 
> disk brakes are set up for long cable pull, the same as v-brakes and are 
> only compatible with long-pull levers.  There are a few short-pull specific 
> calipers, such as a couple of models of the Avid "BB" range that 
> specifically have a "road" version.  I think a couple of other 
> manufacturers (Formula, Tektro) are starting to come out with short-pull 
> road models (those are probably what you're seeing on disc cross bikes), 
> but they are still relatively thin on the ground.  
>
> The current crop of cross and road bikes use cable discs mostly because 
> nobody's come out with a hydraulic drop-bar lever yet, and any of the 
> conversion systems (I've seen one involving cable-actuated master cylinders 
> under the stem) don't quite seem refined enough yet.  However, at Eurobike 
> this past week Colnago was showing off disc road bikes with a hydraulic, 
> electronic brifter (for either Campy EPS or Shimano Di2) they had designed 
> with Formula. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:23:00 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote:
>>
>> I've never used any disc brakes, so I cant comment on performance, but 
>> one advantage of cable discs is that you can use any normal, standard-pull 
>> brake lever - brifter, mtb, inverse, guidonnet, etc.. This is why the 
>> 'cross and road disc bikes now hitting the shows use mostly cable discs. 
>> This will eventually change, of course, as road discs seem to be the Next 
>> Big Thing that Trekalized will push on the road riding masses, so hydraulic 
>> STI levers cant be too far off. For me, however, part of the Riv ethos is 
>> the idea that you can freely mix and match parts to suit. I've already 
>> messed this up a bit for myself with V-brakes, but at least you can find a 
>> lever that is convertible from short to long pull. Not sure if there is a 
>> lever than can convert from hydraulic to cable.
>>
>> Another HUGE advantage to disc brakes, for the Riv and Bob folks, is you 
>> can use any wheel size your heart desires! As long as the frame has the 
>> right clearances, (and what Riv frame wouldn't?), you could pick 700c, 650b 
>> or even 26 at will. Sure, fender mounting could be tricky, but it's a lot 
>> easier to find fender mounting work-arounds than it is to move canti bosses.
>>
>> -Pete in CT
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:37:17 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>>
>>> Or hydraulic brakes... I've been riding both cable and hydraulic disc 
>>> brakes for years, and I'm here to tell you, hydraulic Shimano's (the older 
>>> style) are the bee's knees... I've never had issues with busted brake lines 
>>> or poor performance... They're easy to maintain and super dependable, way 
>>> more dependable than rim brakes!  And even the best-adjusted cable-actuated 
>>> disc brakes can't come close to the hydraulics.  The price has come way 
>>> down on hydraulic brakes... there are few reasons left to go with cable 
>>> discs... I've been running them on my mountain bikes for years in all kinds 
>>> of rought weather conditions (including ice and snow).  THEY STOP in all 
>>> kinds of weather!
>>>
>>> I'd love to see a disc version Rivendell...although I fear it would 
>>> require a beefier fork (for the forces applied to the lower section of the 
>>> fork).  This might be a challenge to make a beefier fork that looks 
>>> elegant.  Then again, I'll bet it's possible to preserve the beauty in a 
>>> disc version.. Wes Williams (for example) makes a beautifully curved 29er 
>>> disc fork (the Willits WOW).   I love the look of rim brakes, but 
>>> performance wise there's simply no contest between rim and disc brakes.
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>> BB
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 3, 2012 5:53:11 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like it if this bike were made ready for disc brakes. 
>>>> Mechanical ones. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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