Charlie,
It has been a while since I've lived in Seattle and Portland but the rainy 
season here in the northern Calif. SF bay area reminds me of the rain in the 
Pacific Northwest. The rims on my riv are starting to 'erode'. I've come to 
appreciate Splats and fenders. In New Mexico other than the summer monsoons, 
those acoutrements would have seemed excessive.

-JimD
On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:28 PM, charlie wrote:

> Its been a while since I was forced to ride in the rain here in Washington 
> State but I know if I start commuting again I will be stuck in it eventually 
> and discs do work much better when it is raining hard like it does here. I 
> don't imagine CA has much rain other than a light sprinkle now and then. 
> Probably why adopting disc brakes are not a priority.
> 
> Some might ask well who in their right mind rides in a downpour anyway? My 
> answer would be someone in Oregon or Washington on their way home with 15 
> miles to go and nothing but fir trees to 'wait' under........I really think 
> regional differences drive some of the decision making. Its why you don't see 
> many convertible automobiles in Washington and why homes in Arizona almost 
> always have air conditioning. For the rider who only rides for pleasure its 
> no big deal but more are using their bicycles to actually replace an 
> automobile. (off my soapbox now)
> 
> On Sunday, September 9, 2012 7:51:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
> 
> I thought it would be relevant to post the following in relation to the 
> recent discussion of disc brakes.
> 
> I was just looking at the Riv site. I hadn't read the Hunqapillar description 
> for a while, and it has been updated, fairly recently I think. The following 
> is stated in the second paragraph of the Hunqapillar's current description:
> 
> "
> You won’t find a better touring bike. Some may have disc brakes or suspension 
> or other features of debatable worth, but the Hunqapillar, without them, is 
> our idea of perfect. 
> "
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> 
>> Removable faceplate and a 31.8 mm clamp option. I'm not terribly interested 
>> in the 31.8 mm diameter specifically, but there are some nice bars out there 
>> that are only available in that size. The 26.0 handlebar size seems to be 
>> going away, by and large.
>> 
>> On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:23:06 PM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote:
>> I would LOVE if Riv could use their clout with Nitto to get them to make a 
>> removable faceplate quill stem. The bar (un)wrapping (and inevitable 
>> scratching) with quill stems is the one thing I dislike about them. I know 
>> there are or have been some versions of this out there, but none with Nitto 
>> quality as I recall.
>> 
>> -Pete in CT
>> 
>> On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:10:18 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
>> I am with Jim on the threadless headsets. I have two rivs that I love but if 
>> I could change one thing it would be to go threadless. It would offer a much 
>> wider variety of handlebar choices, I find it easier to adjust the headset, 
>> and it is stiffer, and more headsets are available, and I like being able to 
>> remove the bars without unwrapping the tape.
>> 
>> I am relatively new to disc brakes, but I like the mechanical bb7 brakes on 
>> my surly troll a lot especially now that I am finally figuring out how to 
>> adjust them.
>> 
>> Dan Abelson 
>> St Paul, MN
>> 
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