Beer, bread, pasta, and sweeties make Marc look like Jabba the Hut. That's just 
me, not bein' pedantic here.
Marc
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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on 
behalf of PATRICK MOORE [[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!

I can't cite evidence except long-term and widespread custom, but while it may 
well be true that effective insulin regulation is the -- or *a* -- key to good 
metabolism, I can't help but think that 10,000 years of agriculture -- ie, 
grains -- can't help but be natural to the human body (dig the double 
whatchamacallit negative). 10K years is pretty primal. And more, the Hopi, 
Chinese, Japanese and Indians didn't start getting fat and diabetic until they 
began to wean themselves from the rice, maize or wheat that formerly made up 
most of their diet. OTOH, I've seen no evidence that the traditional Inuit or 
the Masai suffered from obesity, diabetes, heart trouble or lack of energy 
because they ate mostly proteins and fats.

Sure, traditional people also exercised more than modern couch potatoes, but 
then the Primal argument says that exercise won't keep it off if you eat carbs.

The Italians and French are not noted for statistical excesses of obesity and 
diabetes and heart disease.

Me, I eat my grandmother's primal diet that includes six packs, good bread, 
pasta as well as vegetables, dairy, wine, and red meat. And I'm 200% fit! As 
with cycling rules, I prefer to remain a skeptic for one-size-fits-all, while 
being wholly willing to accept that Primal may work for some people. Well, my 
one-size-fits-all rule is that modern processing is probably bad.

On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Michael Hechmer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have 
entertained a long discussion around Why We Get Fat, and if memory serves me 
right, GP published an article in the Reader, which challenged the wisdom of 
extreme forms of exercise, like the Iron Man competition.  So...

I recently stumbled across a web site, 
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz28QX0hvFJ  while looking for some health 
info.  The author has a whole thing going under the rubric of the Primal 
Blueprint.  While his starting point seemed debatable the conclusions he comes 
to both about diet and exercise sound practical and congruent with the diet and 
exercise recommendations from Rivendell.  And they build on them.  They seem 
pretty practical, especially around exercise, to someone (moi) who is 68 years 
old, allergic to "training," but still hoping to maintain an active life for as 
long as possible.

Have others on this list looked into this program more deeply, or tried it out. 
 What did you find, and what do you think?

Michael

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