One may look good on the outside and still have a heart attack at 57 due to a lifetime of poor diet choices. Its not just about being lean although losing body fat is part of the reason I am eating a low carb Primal/Paleo way.....eating primarily meat,eggs, leafy greens and other actual vegetables (no, corn is not a vegetable) berries, nuts and some fruit has allowed me to lose 30 pounds with a very low level of exercise compared to most people. I know my blood sugar is more stable when I eat this way and I feel better doing so. When I was younger.....(20's to 30's) I had no trouble keeping my weight down and I was a full 70 pounds lighter at 30 years of age than I am at 54. The fat came from eating excessive carbohydrates like pasta, cookies, beer, pizza, baked goods, ice cream etc. etc. plus stress and lack of sleep and a reduction in exercise until about age 42 when I tried riding my fat off without a diet change and never lost a pound until I tried the Atkins approach but soon stopped that on poor advice from supposed professionals.....ten years later, I tried it again eating exactly the same as I did earlier and lost fat effortlessly.....I might add that we eat plenty of veggies too (not just meat) as some might think. I do believe some are genetically predisposed to being lean no matter what they eat but that doesn't mean their diet choices are healthy or that they will always be lean. Often as those natural lean folks age they develop a pot belly and their arteries clog just like the big fat guys does.....heck statistically its more likely the natural skinny guy is the one that has the heart attack and the fat guy lives to be 85. What am I trying to say? Its not just what you see on the outside and it may be a false confidence if someone is young and "in shape" to believe that they are living healthy and will always be in shape. Here a photo of me at about 29 to prove my point. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2407446671790&set=a.2545020671054.2143016.1419870581&type=3&theater
On Saturday, October 6, 2012 3:57:04 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > It must be like pedaling in circles -- people are very different. > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Marc Schwartz <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Beer, bread, pasta, and sweeties make Marc look like Jabba the Hut. >> That's just me, not bein' pedantic here. >> Marc >> ________________________________________ >> From: [email protected] <javascript:> [ >> [email protected] <javascript:>] on behalf of PATRICK MOORE [ >> [email protected] <javascript:>] >> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:08 PM >> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >> Subject: Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again! >> >> I can't cite evidence except long-term and widespread custom, but while >> it may well be true that effective insulin regulation is the -- or *a* -- >> key to good metabolism, I can't help but think that 10,000 years of >> agriculture -- ie, grains -- can't help but be natural to the human body >> (dig the double whatchamacallit negative). 10K years is pretty primal. And >> more, the Hopi, Chinese, Japanese and Indians didn't start getting fat and >> diabetic until they began to wean themselves from the rice, maize or wheat >> that formerly made up most of their diet. OTOH, I've seen no evidence that >> the traditional Inuit or the Masai suffered from obesity, diabetes, heart >> trouble or lack of energy because they ate mostly proteins and fats. >> >> Sure, traditional people also exercised more than modern couch potatoes, >> but then the Primal argument says that exercise won't keep it off if you >> eat carbs. >> >> The Italians and French are not noted for statistical excesses of obesity >> and diabetes and heart disease. >> >> Me, I eat my grandmother's primal diet that includes six packs, good >> bread, pasta as well as vegetables, dairy, wine, and red meat. And I'm 200% >> fit! As with cycling rules, I prefer to remain a skeptic for >> one-size-fits-all, while being wholly willing to accept that Primal may >> work for some people. Well, my one-size-fits-all rule is that modern >> processing is probably bad. >> >> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Michael Hechmer >> <[email protected]<javascript:> >> <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>> wrote: >> This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have >> entertained a long discussion around Why We Get Fat, and if memory serves >> me right, GP published an article in the Reader, which challenged the >> wisdom of extreme forms of exercise, like the Iron Man competition. So... >> >> I recently stumbled across a web site, >> http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz28QX0hvFJ while looking for some >> health info. The author has a whole thing going under the rubric of the >> Primal Blueprint. While his starting point seemed debatable the >> conclusions he comes to both about diet and exercise sound practical and >> congruent with the diet and exercise recommendations from Rivendell. And >> they build on them. They seem pretty practical, especially around >> exercise, to someone (moi) who is 68 years old, allergic to "training," but >> still hoping to maintain an active life for as long as possible. >> >> Have others on this list looked into this program more deeply, or tried >> it out. What did you find, and what do you think? >> >> Michael >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8w3oJYZCaucJ. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javascript:> >> <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <javascript:><mailto: >> rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected] <javascript:>>. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >> -- Claude Cockburn >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> ------------------------- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." > -- Claude Cockburn > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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