There is a whole community of people who were inspired by Bill Clinton's 
weight loss based on a lifestyle and diet changes expressed in the 
documentary "forks over knives" and benefited from a switch to a HEALTHY 
plant-based diet. I stress the word HEALTHY because based on my own 
experience of being a vegetarian and vegan most of my life, one can have a 
very bad plant-based diet. I don't claim that being on any vegan diet makes 
one thin, as I myself balloon from 170lbs in late college to my heaviest of 
210 lbs just 2 years ago, all the while being a vegetarian or vegan. I did 
lose about 20-25 lbs in the last two years, based on a CORRECTIVE diet of 
not eating any starch for weeks. The model I employed, which correlated 
with my success, was that I moved up to a set point in terms of weight and 
digestive metabolism, and needed to use a "cleanse" to reset those points. 
I also began rock climbing and lifting weight in addition to cycling to 
build more muscles. During the weeks of my corrective diet I stayed a vegan 
and ate tons of leafy vegetables, legumes (beans, lentils, tofu, etc.), 
nuts, and fruits that are low on the glycemic index. After the corrective 
period, I have gone to eating whole grains, and pretty much kept all the 
weight off.

What I find salient in most of the posts here is that people ween off 
refined food, and eat more whole foods. I like how Jim described how his 
diet probably has a lot more leafy vegetables than what most americans 
consume. I have moved on from refined sugar, refined grains, and processed 
food (not craving for them) since the corrective diet, and now still enjoy 
eating brown rice, quinoa, and soba (buckwheat) noodles in fairly healthy 
quantities. Although being healthy is not only about weight loss, but 
that's for another day.

Franklyn

On Monday, October 8, 2012 8:34:54 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, 20 years ago, I was a skinny 6', 145lb Marine... But 
> after learning how to eat everything I could get my hands on, then getting 
> out of constant activity and sitting on my duff for years of grad school, I 
> found myself 10 years ago tipping the scales at 280lbs... I went on a 
> carb-free diet for a year (no breads, no potatoes, no sugars, best I could 
> manage), and finally got down to 200lbs.  
>
> But something clicked in my head; er, rather, internally, something 
> snapped, regardless of my head thinking otherwise... if I thought about not 
> eating a roll, I ate the pan of rolls; if I thought about not eating a 
> slice of pie, I ate the pie.  It was really weird, I just couldn't not eat 
> carbs at all.  So, I gave up, went back to 'normal', and the weight crept 
> back on.
>
> Wanting to do something about it again, is when I got back into riding a 
> few years ago; but as Grant's pointed out, riding alone won't drop pounds. 
>  This past spring, seeing the scale back up at 260, I finally started 
> watching the carbs again.  Took all summer, to get down to 235 now; that 
> much weight actually dropped fast early on, but then I got stuck, and have 
> been... For the past two months, I'm stuck at 235, 236, 237, and no more 
> has come off...  I really want to get down to 200 (further, eventually, but 
> 200 is my initial goal); so, since my diet alone, nor w/ biking is helping, 
> I'm thinking about mixing a bit of running in, to help get the loss moving. 
>  Aside from 'health', a large part of wanting to get my weight down, is to 
> help my hill-climbing on my bikes....
>
> Patrick ( and Jim),
> Tying your two thoughts together on alcohol: when I had the opportunity to 
> spend a week in Albuquerque this past summer, I was shocked at the quantity 
> of cheap liquor available even in WalMart there.... And noting the sizes of 
> those purchasers buying in quantity, none were petite...  I do like an 
> occasional beer myself, but singularly, not in quantity, and I now keep 
> them further between... Instead of a weekly beer, anymore it's closer to a 
> monthly beer, just avoiding carbs (many of my geologist colleagues are hard 
> drinkers, but only a few would I classify as alcoholics (but there are 
> some); I enjoy a drink or two, but despise getting drunk, one and done is 
> great for me; but I completely understand, not even getting started if 
> that's what someone needs to do...).
>
>

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