All good points but the issues I at least find in my life are bigger than
just wanting to change or "doing things differently." Me and my wife get up
at 7 and dont get back home from work until 6:30, then we eat dinner with
our daughter, do homework and bed time. By then it is 8:30-9pm and everyone
is exhausted and just wants to relax.  I do often get out on the bike and
do an hour before coming home to shower and hit they hay but I have to make
myself get out there alot of the time. Once I do though it is always a good
decision as I feel better for having done it, and really enjoy myself to be
sure. Not to get too meta here but the problem for alot of us is we are in
a society that demands we work 50 hours a week and keep up a working family
unit AND look great all the time and just something has to give. Newsweek
had a great article last week pertaining to how this modern schedule is
affecting women but touched on that no-one can lead a happy life at those
levels. It is just sad to see a society that villifies people who are out
of shape or frazzled so bad from just the daily grind that at the end of
the day all they want to do is watch tv and eat some chips or ice cream. It
is alot easier to just tell people to live healthier lives and get in
shape, it is harder to understand the underlying causes of what makes
people have to live unhealthy lives in the first place.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:46 AM, charlie <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't disagree but without and actual change in what one eats (if trying
> to lose fat) this doesn't work. I haven't stopped doing any of those
> things.... heck we don't even have television...A holistic approach is
> definitely important but the basic fact is about what and how much of it we
> eat.  Years of bad living often mean the damage is already done and some
> might only be able to slow the deterioration down making it difficult to
> return to a healthy body fat percentage and overall health. All the more
> reason to get on it as soon as possible. It is a well know fact that a very
> low percentage of the truly obese are not often successful in their efforts
> to lose fat. It is a real problem for some and not often understood by
> the average slightly chubby person. The subject and the people are more
> often laughed about, (I witnessed that yesterday at work) or dismissed as
> being lazy or otherwise flawed but that's another story........
>
>
> "we need to get back to the basics and those who are really struggling
> with weight need a multi-dimensional solution.  be active.  have sex.
> sleep.  volunteer.  pet a dog.  learn something new.  unplug the
> computer/TV and go outside.  that seems like a better prescription for
> weight loss than any diet."
>
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:43:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, October 8, 2012 12:36:23 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a whole community of people who were inspired by Bill Clinton's
>>> weight loss based on a lifestyle and diet changes . ..
>>>
>>
>> Bill Clinton aside, "lifestyle" is a very important part of the
>> equation.  There's a lot of talk about what to eat, how to eat, blah, blah
>> .  . . but I don't think all that talk makes much difference if other
>> aspects of lifestyle are out of balance.  There's a distinct feeling that
>> comes with wellness - things get easy because being physically and mentally
>> well feels really, really good.  the body naturally craves this feeling and
>> eating well and being active is our natural default setting - I live that
>> lifestyle not because i'm on a specific "diet" and "exercise" regimen, but
>> simply because it makes me feel good, day in and day out.  it give me
>> energy to do the things I like doing.  it naturally relieves stress.  it
>> promotes rest and sleep.  there's no choice or calculus about whether to
>> eat this or that, or whether i should "do cardio" - the only choice is
>> whether i want to feel good or feel like crap.
>>
>> culturally, we're getting pretty far removed from our natural "wellness"
>> default.  obesity, depression, anxiety ... that stuff goes hand-in-hand.
>> life gets out of control, weight gets out of control, and we eventually
>> start to lose our minds and feel like crap all the time.  to feel "good"
>> again, people over compensate with the things that should make us feel good
>> - over eating is a prime example.  "Comfort" has literally become a food
>> group.
>>
>> we need to get back to the basics and those who are really struggling
>> with weight need a multi-dimensional solution.  be active.  have sex.
>> sleep.  volunteer.  pet a dog.  learn something new.  unplug the
>> computer/TV and go outside.  that seems like a better prescription for
>> weight loss than any diet.
>>
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