When I put a constant running LED tail light on my rear rack it was a good 
day......It truly makes the bicycle a vehicle. No more worries about dead 
batteries etc. There are some real benefits to a constant on tail light. 
Just run the wires back there.... its no big deal then refine it with 
internal wiring later. I use the B&M IQ Fly with daylight running lights 
but the Cyo with the more focused beam is better for faster riding. You 
can't improve on the Edeluxe however and I intend to get one eventually. 
The switches are better on the Edeluxe....I've had the IQ switch go wonky 
on me a couple times.

On Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:37:17 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Ok, my Dyno knowlege is only of bottle dynamos and bulb style lights. I 
> want to get a Shimano NH72 wheel from longleaf for my Bombadil since I find 
> I am out more and more in the dark and wil sometimes forget to charge the 
> NiteRider.  I was looking at one of the LED lights Peter White sells for 
> daytime running (Lumotec IQ CYO RT). Back to old dynamo lights, if you had 
> only a front light you had to switch out the bulbs but now with all this 
> modern stuff can I just the dynamo to just  power the front LED? I would 
> rather just use a battery setup outback for now, until I get brave enough 
> to run wires the length of the bike. BTW, anyone ever use that particular 
> light? It sounds the business. 
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Dan McNamara 
> <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Took that out of context. The SP-Dynamo PV-8 was least efficient downhill 
>> at night. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Kelly <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't find where you found the SP PV-8 to be the least efficient.   
>> I just re read the article and it performed well from what I saw.  Not even 
>> close the least.  I could be mis reading or missed something all together.  
>> Looking at charts and comments it looked as though the only concern was 
>> longevity as it's new and un tested, not to mention the problems with the 
>> switched versions. 
>>
>> It looked to me that they rated it very high and the graphs showed decent 
>> performance.   What that a typo and you meant some other hub?  
>>
>> Confused..
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:34:45 AM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure. Although I do think that BQ is a publication well worth supporting 
>>> with a subscription. Lots of great info. 
>>>
>>> Hubs tested were 
>>> Sanyo H27 
>>> Shimano 3N80 
>>> SON28 
>>> SON Delux 
>>> SON Delux wide-body 
>>> SP HB013 
>>> SP PV-8 
>>>
>>> Article is "Generator Hubs for Performance Bicycles" 
>>>
>>> None were bad. Quality control of SP hubs unknown. 
>>>
>>> SP PV-8 is least efficient. 
>>>
>>> If on a budget, extra $ better spent on headlights not hub. 
>>>
>>> Favorite was SON Delux SL wide body. Wide flange = stronger wheel. Likes 
>>> SL connector-less system. Low resistance. 
>>>
>>> For casual riding Sanyo H27 is tempting. 
>>>
>>> That is the nutshell version. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan 
>>>
>>> Marin 
>>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:21 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>
>>> > Dan -- can you share with the list, for those who don't subscribe to 
>>> BQ? 
>>> > 
>>> > Thanks. 
>>> > 
>>> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Dan McNamara <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> >> I ended up going with a Sanyo hub on my commute/grocery-getter/baby-*
>>> *hauler 
>>> >> and it has been great. The price is right and it has been solid. 
>>> There is an 
>>> >> article on all the current dyno-hubs in the most recent BQ. Lots of 
>>> info on 
>>> >> drag and output. I can summarize and email you later tonight. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Dan 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Marin 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> I've not used the newer Sanyo or Supernova hubs, but I have owned 
>>> >>> several DH3 N72 models which I understand were improved over the 
>>> >>> earlier ... 71 -- Sheldon had this sorted out. At any rate, he said 
>>> >>> that the 72 and 80s have the same bearings, so I'm not sure what the 
>>> >>> difference, if any beside name, is. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> The 72, at any rate, is an excellent bargain and frankly, I 
>>> personally 
>>> >>> don't need anything better than this. I think my SON 20 wheel spins 
>>> a 
>>> >>> little more freely than the ...72 wheels, but not so you can tell 
>>> the 
>>> >>> difference when riding. IMO and IME, a Shimano hub and the Cyo are 
>>> >>> excellent value. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> If I were looking for another dynamo system, I think I might first 
>>> >>> look for a decent Sanyo BB dynamo and wait to see what some of the 
>>> new 
>>> >>> bike generator gadgets come to. There's one that is supposed to 
>>> affix 
>>> >>> to any wheel, and another that -- do I remember correctly? -- works 
>>> >>> off the rim?? Vapor as of now, and I don't have the links, but 
>>> perhaps 
>>> >>> someone else can point us to them. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> The Sanyo BB generator I briefly owned and sold with the Herse 
>>> worked 
>>> >>> fine: less drag than a Soubitez bottle (which itself wasn't horrible 
>>> >>> for shorter distances) and, of course, much cheaper than a hub + 
>>> >>> wheel. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Lastly, there have been several dynohub wheel offers on this list in 
>>> >>> the last few months that were excellent buys -- this and the boblist 
>>> >>> might be worth searching. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> >>>> Hi 
>>> >>>> Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
>>> >>>> realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan 
>>> to ride 
>>> >>>> after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation 
>>> Shimano 
>>> >>>> dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built 
>>> wheelset on 
>>> >>>> the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
>>> >>>> SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) 
>>> and the 
>>> >>>> time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. 
>>> I'd like 
>>> >>>> to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's 
>>> Shimano, 
>>> >>>> Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that 
>>> SON is 
>>> >>>> probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a 
>>> Shimano-type 
>>> >>>> connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use 
>>> another CYO 
>>> >>>> upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is 
>>> Shimano's 
>>> >>>> offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one? 
>>> >>>> Thanks in advance! 
>>> >>>> 
>>> >>>> Justin "Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear" August 
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