On Sun, 2012-12-09 at 23:38 -0800, Manuel Acosta wrote:
> Got to tag along with some SF Randonndeurs, Ely from Ruth Bags, Ray
> from Mission Bags and David on their Jittery Jaunt 200k Permanent that
> took us to the small town of Valley Ford. 

Interesting.  That should not have been allowed, as it violates RUSA
rules for riding Permanents.

> I'm not too fond of doing this much mileage but was pretty curious
> about exploring around the Petaluma area so I figured it would be good
> to explore with people that knew how to get around and answer that
> dying question, Why all the miles? Those randonneur guys, you would
> think that would enjoy riding all those miles, but the ugly truth is
> that they don't. 

I cannot imagine how you came to that conclusion.  


> Apparently no buddy does. 

Surely you meant to say "nobody"... and, of course, you would be
completely wrong in believing so.

> So what's the big deal? Why would anyone want to put their body
> through that much suffering? 

200K and "that much suffering"?  That is really a stretch.  Now if you
were describing 1200K, that might be another story.


> I went along searching for this answer. 
> And finally got it after a day of recovering.
> When you have been riding your bike for the whole day and your whole
> body is telling you this is a stupid idea. 

Either you're not in condition for doing a ride that long, or there is
something really wrong with your setup on the bike.  200K is, after all,
only around 25 miles longer than the typical century, and centuries have
been part of recreational cycling since the 19th century (they did them
on penny-farthings).  

> The only thing that pushes you along, sometimes literary, is the other
> stupid people that is suffering with you. 

"People" is plural; I wouldn't call that "literary"... but then, you
probably meant "literally" anyway. 

> You learn a lot about yourself and others when you're cramping and
> riding up a steep grade in the middle of the night 

You rode a 200K in the middle of the night?  What time of day did you
start?  You get 13 1/2 hrs to ride a 200K, so you would have had to have
set out very late in the day to end up finishing as late as that.

> and the only thing that pushes you on is that there are other people
> waiting for you with more food. That sense of finishing something you
> set your mind to and doing it in the company of great people and
> amazing scenery with plenty of food breaks makes the whole experience
> a little less painful. 

I don't think you'll find many randonneurs who find a 200K to be as
painful as you describe, or who regard it as anything like the death
march you make it seem.

For a somewhat different perspective, let me quote from Seven's 2013
brochure _Love To Ride_, p. 10-12, an article entitled "Through the
Night, Together" by Sandy Williams:

"More than a format, randonneuring is a culture highlighted by long
routes and camaraderie. Rando legend Melinda Lyon suggested that, first
and foremost, randonneurs are always polite: you can ride hard, but your
speed remains secondary to consideration for everyone, whether it’s
another rider, a course volunteer, a motorist, a citizen with no
affiliation with the event, or your own safety. In races, other riders
try to drop you; in randonnees, your company is a welcome part of the
journey. The course itself is the daunting competitor.

"The direct translation of the French word “randonnée” is “hike.” In the
context of cycling, “randonneuring” is a French invention in the same
spirit as events that call themselves a “challenge.” It is not a race
because there are no awards or placings, and it is not a relaxed tour
because the difficulties are unpleasant at times. There are, however,
time limits for reaching each rest station. 

"Much of the challenge is due to a randonnee’s length. The “short”
version, a “brevet” (French for “brief”) is scaled in increments
of 100 kilometers—100K, 200K, 400K, etc. While most new randonneurs will
try a 200K, many soon try a longer version, both for the challenge and
the appeal of riding long routes with like-minded riders. The allure is
not more suffering, but a craving to make a full day of it. Extending
into the night only amplifies what makes the sport great. You explore
like never before.

"Randonnee rules are almost transparent. For example, rules require
obeying traffic laws, which is the case under any circumstance.
Riders have to follow the designated route—which sounds like an
invitation to shortcut, except that the route typically follows
the best course between points, if not steering clear of outright
misery. Randonnees also disallow crew support between designated
checkpoints, but that is simply the reality of the open road—and the
fact that friends are generally unwilling to drive 200 miles to meet
riders in the middle of nowhere with coffee and pastry at 2 am.
Thus randonneurs navigate and plan their ride with extra food, clothes,
and tools. 

"Randonnees are open to riders of all backgrounds and goals, from racers
to tourists, from experienced ultradistance riders, to weekend warriors
looking to highlight their season. They are a classless society.
Everyone starts together and gets the same support en route.  
Randonneuring completely echoes the French motto “Liberty, equality,
fraternity”—no wonder it has surged in popularity in the States.
The first-timers look tense at the start, but by the end, or at least
after a night’s sleep, one of two things has happened: either
that rookie has a once-in-a-lifetime experience, never to be repeated,
or is completely hooked and can’t wait for the next ride."




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