What William describes (One trait that I think makes me well suited for 
Randonneuring is that I have a short memory for bad experiences and a long 
memory for good ones) is called randonnesia--forgetting all the bad b/w 
rides.  It makes it possible for many of us.  



On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:36:29 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
>
> Patrick, I think you are right that Randonneuring is suited for a 
> particular set of personality traits (or disorders).  One trait that I 
> think makes me well suited for Randonneuring is that I have a short memory 
> for bad experiences and a long memory for good ones.  I think that's one of 
> the reasons I'm suited for fatherhood.  You'd have to remind me about the 
> dirty diapers, sleepless nights, nights in the hospital.  I've essentially 
> forgotten the troubles, and remember the vast majority of the pleasures. 
>  Looking back at it, my ongoing career as a father is a constant source of 
> joy and optimism.  I've had many difficult moments on brevets as well, but 
> I have to think hard to recall them.  I have no difficulty at all 
> remembering a myriad of positive little details.  A saran-wrapped package 
> of cubed cheese and sausage at the Valley Ford Market.  The borderline 
> over-peppered and piping hot clam chowder at the Marshall Store on a rainy 
> February dusk.  A fellow rando yelling "Go Bubba!" coming the other way on 
> an out-and-back section.  The view looking North along the Pacific Coast 
> from the Pt Reyes Lighthouse.  The long list of positives and my inability 
> to recall the negatives makes me itch for my next event.  People who have a 
> good memory for hardships probably would finish an event and say "that was 
> stupid, never again".  I hear people say that about children as well.   
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:02:02 AM UTC-8, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 10, 2012 8:35:15 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Every ride we talked about he had ridden and had only negative 
>>> comments.  This fellow seemed deeply involved and experienced and pretty 
>>> grumpy about it all. I've never really figured this out. 
>>>
>>> I too hear a lot of "death-march" recounting of randonneuring.  Rando is 
>> fun to think about it because there are those magic moments and the pure 
>> joy of just being out on the bike exploring and taking in the scenery - 
>> it's easy to fall in love with the idea.  but it's the rare person who gets 
>> by on this idealized notion, especially for the longer brevets.  the folks 
>> that do it and can extract the "fun" out tend to be the highly motivated, 
>> goal-setting, and self-competitive types that are driven by the challenge 
>> of it all.  it definitely suits certain personalities, especially those who 
>> draw their energy and sense of accomplishment and meaning from within 
>> (i.e., introverts).  in other words, "fun" isn't so much about the sunrises 
>> and the pretty spectacle of a stream of reflective gear and bicycle lights 
>> at night - it's the satisfaction of not quitting, overcoming something 
>> difficult, the lessons learned along the way, and most importantly, 
>> reaching a goal.  Being "deeply involved" and "grumpy" is understandable 
>> when you take into personality and psyche into account.  
>>
>> likewise with respect to marathon/ultra-running, ironman distance 
>> triathlon, the Tour Divide, etc.  those events are technically races, but I 
>> see no real difference compared to the "non-competitive" sport of rando.  
>> for the vast majority of people who do stuff like this, finishing is the 
>> primary goal and meeting a self-prescribed standard of performance (the 
>> "personal record" or "PR") amounts to winning - there's no real external 
>> motivator (most don't do it to finish first and win the prizes, get the 
>> attention, etc.), which again might be why more introverted folks gravitate 
>> towards and excel in these sports.  
>>
>

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