*One* more remark here: someone -- Stans? Vittoria? -- actually makes
a "per dose" sealant for tubular (sewup) flats. Stop, add to flatted
tube thru removeable valve, pump, ride (so they claim).

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim -- I guess that your implicit point remains (so all chime in):
> that sealants in low pressure tires might work much better than same
> sealants in HP tires. OTOH, the scuttlebutt/googlebutt I've read leads
> me to think that these sealants might work well in HP tubs, too. I
> solicit comments from tub riders.
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks. But really, no terminological inexactitude at all; I've read
>> about using Stans (and other new-tech sealants) in Tubs (tubulars, sew
>> ups) with good results.
>>
>> Also, I have no desire to run anything bigger than say 28 on this Ram,
>> at least according to my current programming. I've got Fat on the
>> Fargo.
>>
>> There was a thread on the CR list recently about sub $50 tubs that
>> were (per the posters) decent. My idea is to find a CL or eB or swap
>> meet tub wheelset, spend $150 on 3 Thailand tubs and $10 on Stans, and
>> give it a whirl. Note that my 650CX23 Michelin Pro Races puncture no
>> more than my Kojaks, at least on the roads I generally ride them; no
>> more than 2-3 flats a week over the three bikes, which is not to bad
>> by my frames of reference.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Jim Mather <mather...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You are confusing the terminology: Stan's is tubeless, not tubular.
>>> Tubular, aka sew-ups, are a tire sewn around a tube.
>>>
>>> Stan's has road tubular, but it's expensive and tire choice is
>>> limited. It is intended for racers who will run high psi. You can read
>>> about it here: http://www.notubes.com/Road-Tubeless-C78.aspx
>>>
>>> If you're setting up a fairly fat tire with with lower pressures, you
>>> have more flexibility. For example, a Big Apple would probably make a
>>> great tubeless set up, but a Ram won't fit that. Run a 40mm tire at
>>> less than 60 psi, and it might work but I don't know for sure. But to
>>> run a 40 on a Ram, I imagine you need to do the 650B conversion.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> wc ca
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm getting mixed signals on this -- partly scuttlebutt, partly via
>>>> Google. If Stans can work off road, why not on road?
>>>>
>>>> In any event, if I do try tubs, it will be on the cheap with a
>>>> scavenged or at least used wheelset.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM, David Yu Greenblatt
>>>> <david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you live in goathead country trying to run tubular tires (which, as you
>>>>> know, have tubes) with or without Stan's sealant may be an expensive and
>>>>> frustrating experiment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am curious about how tubeless Hetres (with Stan's) would perform in your
>>>>> area.
>>>>>
>>>>> - David G in SF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am still debating whether I want to try tubulars (with Stans).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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