Excellent work, Rene.  The Betty is a 58, right?  So the end result was 
that you succeeded...full fenders and Hetres on a Betty Foy?  That's hot!

On Friday, January 11, 2013 3:23:13 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> Yesterday, I spent around 8 hours after I got home from work to get Betty 
> ready for full commute and regular use. Mind you, I had already managed to 
> install the rear 650b 50mm Berthoud steel fender, but the front one had me 
> completely stumped. Orders had been made and delivered, and while I now 
> have a set of 38mm Lierre tires, when I put the front one on the budget 
> dynamo wheel that I had purchased as a special from Riv sometime last year 
> (or maybe even longer), my first impression was that I didn't like the 
> skinny (compared to the Hetre) Lierre black/tan tire compared to the 
> red/tan Hetre. So, being determined to try to find a way to prevent the 
> rubbing of the Daruma bolt with the tire, while still having enough threads 
> to bolt it.
>  
> I hope you're sitting comfortably, here goes the long detailed version of 
> my adventure... 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371244004/in/set-72157625115263842/
>  
> - The first step was to remove the front Silver brake, which interferes 
> with the fender, especially when opening it to remove the wheel, with a 
> Paul Racer front brake. I already have these on the Hilsen and really like 
> them. Unfortunately, it's impossible to use one on the rear, so the rear 
> Silver stayed. Naturally, I took advantage of this operation to also remove 
> the Paul Thumbies I was using on the stem for the barend shifters and 
> replace them with the mount that Riv sells/sold for this purpose, which is 
> a lot more beautiful: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8370178221/in/set-72157625115263842/. 
> I first wanted to replace the shifters with a set of DuraAce downtube 
> shifters, but there isn't enough room with the Bullmoose Bosco bar for 
> those and I had to go back to the barend shifters.
> - Next was dealing with the Daruma bolt, and since I wanted to use the 
> fender wedge that Boulder bycicle sells in two thicknesses, I had to grind 
> down and flaten the rear of the holed portion of the daruma since to allow 
> it to be centered enough so the fender wedge could sit inside the bottom of 
> the fork crown. Otherwise, the recessed center mount pushes it too far 
> forward: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371814700/in/set-72157625115263842/
> - After hours of frustration during the Christmas break without having 
> been able to figure out how to improve the clearance between the tire and 
> the daruma bolt, last night I had the epifany of widening the hole on the 
> fender so a short center mount brake recessed nut/mount could screw into 
> the daruma bolt while leaving a very thin lip to hold the fender tight 
> against the rubber spacer and the fender wedge: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8370748261/in/set-72157625115263842/ 
> (you 
> can see other images of the fender wedge and parts on the set.
> - I thought I had it all nailed down, but discovered that the recessed 
> mount would screw all the way into the daruma without tightening the 
> fender, in fact, at first it still rubbed and it took me a while to realize 
> what was happening. I proceeded to grind the recessed mount and the daruma 
> screw, making it too short once and then finally getting it to work almost 
> perfectly. There is still a little gap between the lip of the recessed 
> mount and the fender which allows it to vibrate if you knock on it, but 
> with the front screwed to the rack and the rear stays, the fender is super 
> solid. There is no rubbing at all, so I may try putting a spacer or 
> something to get it to fit tighter so it doesn't buzz when knocking on the 
> frame: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371247196/in/set-72157625115263842/
> - The width between the 50mm Berthoud fender and the 42mm Hetre seems to 
> be a bit close, for some reason more so on the front than on the rear. 
> Mounting the rear was a breeze. Still, there is no rubbing and today Betty 
> went on her first ever work commute with me.
>  
> The ride this morning was absolutely fantastic. I don't know what it is, 
> but the Betty with the Hetres seems to roll so effortlessly compared to my 
> other Rivs on Marathon Dureme or Supreme tires that it feels like I'm ice 
> skating. The wheels are budget, so it must be the Hetres alone, or the 
> combination of Hetre and 650b wheelset. This is my only 650b bike. I did 
> get a set of 32mm Extra Leger tires to put on the Hilsen, so when I do I'll 
> be able to tell the difference that those tires make compared to the 35mm 
> Marathon Supremes I currently have there.
>  
> The fenders behaved perfectly, although I managed to catch the wider stem 
> of a dry leaf when I rode through a patch that was filled with a thick 
> cushion of dry leaves. It didn't catch, it just stayed there rubbing 
> between the fender, and the fender stay.
>  
> The Bullmoose Bosco bars seemed to fit the Betty better than they fit my 
> Hunqapillar. The Betty was an absolute pleasure to ride with the regular 
> Bullmoose bars, but the Bosco gives it even more versatility, I think. They 
> should fit my daughters better as well, if they ever decide to come on a 
> ride with me.
>  
> Last, I mounted the Nitto rear rack and decided to try out a set of 
> rollable Brooks panniers I got as a gift last year. I like the way they 
> mount, with leather straps, but their magnetic closures have no sticking 
> power. They seem OK, but I may decide not to keep them and instead either 
> put the gray Riv panniers I have or put an R14 rear rack to fit the medium 
> Saddlesack instead. I need something to carry my laptop and clothes when I 
> commute and am not sure how well Riv's panniers will do that job.
>  
> Still pending, installing the Edelux lamp to use with the budget dynamo 
> wheel...
>  
> Happy weekend!
>  
> René
>

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