That's just a great bike! Good job. I'm looking forward to hearing how the
Edelux and budget dynamo work. I keep threatening to something like that
for one of my bikes.

Aloha,

Bob


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM, William <[email protected]> wrote:

> Excellent work, Rene.  The Betty is a 58, right?  So the end result was
> that you succeeded...full fenders and Hetres on a Betty Foy?  That's hot!
>
>
> On Friday, January 11, 2013 3:23:13 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>>
>> Yesterday, I spent around 8 hours after I got home from work to get Betty
>> ready for full commute and regular use. Mind you, I had already managed to
>> install the rear 650b 50mm Berthoud steel fender, but the front one had me
>> completely stumped. Orders had been made and delivered, and while I now
>> have a set of 38mm Lierre tires, when I put the front one on the budget
>> dynamo wheel that I had purchased as a special from Riv sometime last year
>> (or maybe even longer), my first impression was that I didn't like the
>> skinny (compared to the Hetre) Lierre black/tan tire compared to the
>> red/tan Hetre. So, being determined to try to find a way to prevent the
>> rubbing of the Daruma bolt with the tire, while still having enough threads
>> to bolt it.
>>
>> I hope you're sitting comfortably, here goes the long detailed version of
>> my adventure... http://www.flickr.com/photos/**
>> orthie251/8371244004/in/set-**72157625115263842/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371244004/in/set-72157625115263842/>
>>
>> - The first step was to remove the front Silver brake, which interferes
>> with the fender, especially when opening it to remove the wheel, with a
>> Paul Racer front brake. I already have these on the Hilsen and really like
>> them. Unfortunately, it's impossible to use one on the rear, so the rear
>> Silver stayed. Naturally, I took advantage of this operation to also remove
>> the Paul Thumbies I was using on the stem for the barend shifters and
>> replace them with the mount that Riv sells/sold for this purpose, which is
>> a lot more beautiful: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**
>> orthie251/8370178221/in/set-**72157625115263842/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8370178221/in/set-72157625115263842/>.
>> I first wanted to replace the shifters with a set of DuraAce downtube
>> shifters, but there isn't enough room with the Bullmoose Bosco bar for
>> those and I had to go back to the barend shifters.
>> - Next was dealing with the Daruma bolt, and since I wanted to use the
>> fender wedge that Boulder bycicle sells in two thicknesses, I had to grind
>> down and flaten the rear of the holed portion of the daruma since to allow
>> it to be centered enough so the fender wedge could sit inside the bottom of
>> the fork crown. Otherwise, the recessed center mount pushes it too far
>> forward: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**orthie251/8371814700/in/set-**
>> 72157625115263842/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371814700/in/set-72157625115263842/>
>> - After hours of frustration during the Christmas break without having
>> been able to figure out how to improve the clearance between the tire and
>> the daruma bolt, last night I had the epifany of widening the hole on the
>> fender so a short center mount brake recessed nut/mount could screw into
>> the daruma bolt while leaving a very thin lip to hold the fender tight
>> against the rubber spacer and the fender wedge:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**orthie251/8370748261/in/set-**
>> 72157625115263842/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8370748261/in/set-72157625115263842/>
>>  (you
>> can see other images of the fender wedge and parts on the set.
>> - I thought I had it all nailed down, but discovered that the recessed
>> mount would screw all the way into the daruma without tightening the
>> fender, in fact, at first it still rubbed and it took me a while to realize
>> what was happening. I proceeded to grind the recessed mount and the daruma
>> screw, making it too short once and then finally getting it to work almost
>> perfectly. There is still a little gap between the lip of the recessed
>> mount and the fender which allows it to vibrate if you knock on it, but
>> with the front screwed to the rack and the rear stays, the fender is super
>> solid. There is no rubbing at all, so I may try putting a spacer or
>> something to get it to fit tighter so it doesn't buzz when knocking on the
>> frame: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**orthie251/8371247196/in/set-**
>> 72157625115263842/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371247196/in/set-72157625115263842/>
>> - The width between the 50mm Berthoud fender and the 42mm Hetre seems to
>> be a bit close, for some reason more so on the front than on the rear.
>> Mounting the rear was a breeze. Still, there is no rubbing and today Betty
>> went on her first ever work commute with me.
>>
>> The ride this morning was absolutely fantastic. I don't know what it is,
>> but the Betty with the Hetres seems to roll so effortlessly compared to my
>> other Rivs on Marathon Dureme or Supreme tires that it feels like I'm ice
>> skating. The wheels are budget, so it must be the Hetres alone, or the
>> combination of Hetre and 650b wheelset. This is my only 650b bike. I did
>> get a set of 32mm Extra Leger tires to put on the Hilsen, so when I do I'll
>> be able to tell the difference that those tires make compared to the 35mm
>> Marathon Supremes I currently have there.
>>
>> The fenders behaved perfectly, although I managed to catch the wider stem
>> of a dry leaf when I rode through a patch that was filled with a thick
>> cushion of dry leaves. It didn't catch, it just stayed there rubbing
>> between the fender, and the fender stay.
>>
>> The Bullmoose Bosco bars seemed to fit the Betty better than they fit my
>> Hunqapillar. The Betty was an absolute pleasure to ride with the regular
>> Bullmoose bars, but the Bosco gives it even more versatility, I think. They
>> should fit my daughters better as well, if they ever decide to come on a
>> ride with me.
>>
>> Last, I mounted the Nitto rear rack and decided to try out a set of
>> rollable Brooks panniers I got as a gift last year. I like the way they
>> mount, with leather straps, but their magnetic closures have no sticking
>> power. They seem OK, but I may decide not to keep them and instead either
>> put the gray Riv panniers I have or put an R14 rear rack to fit the medium
>> Saddlesack instead. I need something to carry my laptop and clothes when I
>> commute and am not sure how well Riv's panniers will do that job.
>>
>> Still pending, installing the Edelux lamp to use with the budget dynamo
>> wheel...
>>
>> Happy weekend!
>>
>> René
>>
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