I've been in the bike business since 2005. The price of everything has gone 
up significantly since then. Brooks saddle prices have more than doubled. 
Riv's frames are up 50% (based on my 2004 Atlantis that was $1300, now 
$2000). Schwalbe tires in any given model have been one of the more 
price-stable items, though they've since introduced the pricier models that 
don't have 2005-era equivalents.

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:19:05 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 14:51 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: 
> > Sure, tires wear out over time, while other items are less consumable, 
> > but that's kinda beside the point. For the added cost of a $2000 Riv 
> > frameset, compared to, say, a $500 Surly, you're not buying extra 
> > durability. You're buying swankiness and style and maybe some 
> > preferable ride quality characteristics, and maybe that's all worth 
> > something to you, but you're not getting extra durability, and 
> > certainly not 4x the durability. 
>
> No, but you are getting a lifespan that's long enough to let you 
> amortize over decades. 
>
>
> > If durability/dollar was your only criterion, nobody would buy a Riv. 
>
> No, but do remember, Riv specifically markets their bikes as bikes you 
> can ride for 20 years.  They're calling for you to take the long view. 
>
>
> >  Personally, I think good tires are among the best investments one can 
> > make on a bike. And as I mentioned before, there are plenty of less 
> > costly options. Basic Big Apples are $34. 
>
> I agree.  And don't forget, the price of tires has gone up a lot in the 
> past 2-3 years.  23mm race tires that used to for around $40 are now 
> approaching $70.  So a $95 high end tire isn't particularly shocking, 
> as /all/ high end tires are hovering around the $100 mark.  I also fully 
> agree that you get your money's worth with high end tires.  Except for 
> winter use, that's all I use.   
>
>
>
>

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