David, 

I believe it is the best size for the handling and ride we want (I know 
others may/will demur, which is ok by me), and as a bonus, and it will also 
work better for the travel bike aspect -- 700c wheels are a snug fit in the 
26x26x10 max airline size case, and w/40-45c tires would be quite tight. 

Not too worried about our size and 650b -- we're going up in tire volume, 
so that's not an issue. What is your concern? Aesthetic w/ too tall a head 
tube? That doesn't worry me, and w/ a small stoker the 650b actually offers 
subjectively better looks in the back, so...   :)

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Friday, February 8, 2013 2:34:07 PM UTC-6, davidfrench wrote:
>
> Julian, I'm 6f6 and my stoker 5f10 and we just bought a used Trek T100 to 
> play around the idea of a tandem
> I put 45c on it (Resist with gum wall... wrong idea they're too fragile) 
> and changed bars/seats.
> It's great!
> But at our size, I wouldn't go with 650b. Why did you chose 650b for your 
> Bilenki?
> David
>
>
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 6:49:34 AM UTC-8, Julian wrote:
>>
>> We've ridden a 700c steel Trek tandem from the early '90s for a number of 
>> years w/ 35c tires and fenders. I'm big (6'7"), stoker small (5'2"), team 
>> weight somewhere around 340 total. Ridden mostly on road, but on some 
>> non-pave trials, the worst of which was the C&O Canal (roots, rocks, mud, 
>> and ruts), and while a little extra cush would sometimes be good, we've 
>> been fine. We bought our Trek used and really enjoyed it.
>>
>> That said, we've been saving our pennies for several years and have 
>> ordered a custom Bilenky 650b randonneur/travel S&S coupled bike that is 
>> designed for Hetres w/fenders. You are right in your observation that the 
>> majority of stock road tandem makers (esp. Santana) seem to be trying to 
>> emulate single bike styling and design w/ low spoke count wheels w/ narrow 
>> tires. There are a few exceptions, but custom is not too far off the cost 
>> of an upmarket stock bike, so if the budget allows I'd definitely go custom 
>> (or look for a deal on a used bike w/ room for at least 35c tires and 
>> semi-sensible geometry). 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
>> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 12:53:35 AM UTC-6, Salween wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the 
>>> meantime will be getting one elsewhere. 
>>>
>>> Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the 
>>> exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their 
>>> tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles. 
>>> So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they 
>>> prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So 
>>> wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?
>>>
>>

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