Thanks for the feedback.

I have no problem fitting 60mm Berthoud fenders on my Hunqapillar to use
with 50mm Marathon Dureme or equivalent tires. In fact, I have so much
clearance, that my question really intended to ask how much is needed to
really minimize the risk of a rock, piece of gravel or stick to get stuck
when riding off-road, and if having too much clearance between the tire and
the metal fender just meant that larger and potentially larger rocks could
get stuck.

I've already fitted both fenders to what I decided was optimal for both
looks and clearance, and will post photos when the build is complete,
unless someone wants to see something faster than that. I'm taking my sweet
time to both enjoy it to the max as well as to ensure I make no mistakes.

I'm also debating whether to go with my original plan to have the
24/40/Guard Sugino crankset which is forcing me to go with a wider BB,
going down to 24/38/Guard to increase the clearance between the 38 and the
chainstay or just go back the the 24/36/46 triple I had, maybe even going
24/36/Guard as I never seem to use the 46...suggestions welcome!

René


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Shoji Takahashi <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Lovelybike has info on a Surly Cross Check with Fat Franks and VO
> Zeppelins. (Lots of pics.)
>
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/06/surly-cross-check-review-colourful.html
>
> She mentions: "On the downside, the clearances between the tires and
> fenders are so tight, that the set-up is not really practical for serious
> off-road cycling: stuff can get caught in there and cause problems. But for
> fire trails and gravel paths it is fine..."
>
> I don't think I would do this with knobbies.
>
> Good luck-- looking forward to the pics of the build.
> Shoji
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:09:53 PM UTC-4, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> What size were the hammered fenders?  The largest size I can find on the
>> VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have
>> difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance.  If you really want metal
>> fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight
>> fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/**index.php/accessories/fenders.**html?p=1<http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1>
>>
>> In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy
>> with them.
>>
>> Aaron Young
>> Vancouver, WA
>>
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote:
>>
>>> Rene,
>>>
>>> I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife
>>> bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I
>>> thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have -  but with
>>> 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me
>>> down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than the
>>> stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of
>>> thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They  worked best
>>> for me and where I ride. Good luck...
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
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