I'm 70 years old with Parkinson's and Macular Degeneration. I just finished a nice ride on my orange Ram, rode my Bleriot yesterday, no problems.
To: [email protected] From: [email protected] Subject: [RBW] Digest for [email protected] - 25 Messages in 7 Topics Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:41:57 +0000 Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics Get a Betty Foy, old man [6 Updates] FS Odds-n-Ends [1 Update] WTB: Nitto Bullmoose dull bright bars [3 Updates] Hillborne finds its true self [1 Update] Experimenting with crank length [9 Updates] Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic) [2 Updates] Recommended 26" tires [3 Updates] Get a Betty Foy, old man Norman Bone <[email protected]> Apr 02 10:43AM -0700 Study says old men should ride B. Foys. http://www.thelocal.se/47064/20130331/#.UVsYP0rDmRJ Lyle Bogart <[email protected]> Apr 02 02:51PM -0400 You know, the findings in that study are interesting (though I concede I've not read the actual study yet). Living in the state with the oldest population, I treat a lot of older cyclists. Many of the men have a variety of hip and/or balance issues which make mounting/dismounting their bikes difficult and a touch risky. I've suggested a step-through frame to several of them and am consistently met with "I am not going to ride a girl's bike!" Ah well. . . I can say that, after having ridden my wife's Betty, I want one just 'cause they're delightful bikes. Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> Apr 02 03:55PM -0400 On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 10:43 -0700, Norman Bone wrote: > "The bike should not be designed as a standard bike, with a pole in > the middle, for the men are not able to get over it," VTI researcher > Anna Niska said to the TT news agency. If you're 65 and you feel you are "elderly" then perhaps you should do. I and half the people I ride with are 70 or over, and none of us seems to have any trouble mounting or dismounting conventional frames. None of us think of ourselves as "elderly," either. Deacon Patrick <[email protected]> Apr 02 12:59PM -0700 +1. My first thought on reading the article was "that's a flexibility issue, not an age issue." Increase flexibility, decrease your age. Grin. Balance no doubt plays a part, yet I do fine with full on vertigo, when barefoot or moccasined. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 1:55:22 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: James Warren <[email protected]> Apr 02 01:07PM -0700 Having just moved to two top tubes, am I swimming upstream? -----Original Message----- From: Norman Bone Sent: Apr 2, 2013 10:43 AM To: "[email protected]" Subject: [RBW] Get a Betty Foy, old man Study says old men should ride B. Foys. http://www.thelocal.se/47064/20130331/#.UVsYP0rDmRJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Bruce Herbitter <[email protected]> Apr 02 03:13PM -0500 You sure pedaled like a spring chicken when we rode, Steve! I'm a veritable babe on training wheels by comparison. :) FS Odds-n-Ends Tex69 <[email protected]> Apr 02 01:05PM -0700 I accept Paypal to same address. Buyer pays shipping. I usually use UPS but can use another if preferred. More information at http://texluavullcyclingforsale.blogspot.com/ Prices suggested OBO. **Nitto 25.4" Moustache Bar RM016N - very good condition- $50 **Shimano Ultegra Brifters- 3x9 capable- aesthetically very well used but work fine $40 **Sakae SR-MT100 Adjustable seatpost- somewhat vintage- $10 **Shimano Deore front derailer (Sheldon's spelling)- well used but serviceable- $10 WTB: Nitto Bullmoose dull bright bars hobie <[email protected]> Apr 02 09:53AM -0700 Always wanted to try this bar/cockpit setup. If anyone on this list has one and is looking to part with it, please contact. Spring has sprung, Yahoo!!!!!!! "René Sterental" <[email protected]> Apr 02 12:46PM -0700 I'm preparing to sell a 150mm Bullmoose handlebar. Not sure what you mean by dull bright... You are looking for the mountain bike type handlebar, right? Not the Bosco. Actually, with all the experimentation I've done with handlebars, I will be posting several for sale soon. jimmy johnsen <[email protected]> Apr 02 01:05PM -0700 Rene. Yes the 150mm bullmoose. Any pics? Very interested thanks. Jimmy ________________________________ From: René Sterental <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Bullmoose dull bright bars I'm preparing to sell a 150mm Bullmoose handlebar. Not sure what you mean by dull bright... You are looking for the mountain bike type handlebar, right? Not the Bosco. Actually, with all the experimentation I've done with handlebars, I will be posting several for sale soon. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:53 AM, hobie <[email protected]> wrote: Always wanted to try this bar/cockpit setup. If anyone on this list has one and is looking to part with it, please contact. Spring has sprung, Yahoo!!!!!!! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cYb4qoDh_RE/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Hillborne finds its true self Peter Pesce <[email protected]> Apr 02 12:58PM -0700 Same here. Had drops - Noodles and Nitto Rando - on my Sam and it was never quite right for my use. If I were doing a tour it might be different, but the way I use it the Alba bars transformed the bike, mostly by transforming MY attitude when I get on it. With the Albas (or, I'd imagine, most swept back bars) you just can't help but feel that you're getting on the bike to have fun. It's funny but the Sam went through lots of iterations, with brifters, no fenders, rando-bag, etc etc but it's now a textbook Riv country bike with lots of shiny bits, grip kings, bags galore, and it now feels just so "right" as a bike... -Pete in CT On Monday, April 1, 2013 12:38:22 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote: Experimenting with crank length PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> Apr 02 08:28AM -0600 And Garth, ever gnomic, uttered: "What would it feel like to have the leverage of long cranks yet still be able to spin like short ones ? Lo and behold ... this came to my mind to try and it's better than I even imagined !!! " O, unfathomable Garth: explain thyself to us of mere mortal ken: how, exactly, dost thou get long-crank leverage while you spin like short ones? 152s? Really? or was this an April Fools' joke that got held up? Me, I found that 175s on a low gear were horribly annoying to spin and got rid of them. I use 170s, more or less, on everything. -- __________________________________________________________________________ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. http://resumespecialties.com/testimonials.html Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * [email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ Kenneth Stagg <[email protected]> Apr 02 09:36AM -0500 Small changes make a difference for me as well. 165's are sweet, 170's OK, 172.5's are hard for me to use. I've had occaision to forget what length cranks were on a bike only to look down and wonder just what was going on. Just me, though. -Ken On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Herbitter Eric Platt <[email protected]> Apr 02 10:44AM -0500 For some, the changes seem more important than others. When first getting back into riding I was determined to have 175's because that's what I had before my layoff. Since then, it's become less important. Both the current Rivendells have 170's and feel just fine. My LHT might have 175s on it. But am not even sure at the moment. At least with my riding preferences, Q factor seems more important than crank arm length. And there my preference is for wider. The Shimano Alfine cranks seem about perfect, although will occasionally catch my right foot moving slightly outboard when riding. With Jim's original post, would assume the wider Q factor caused by the bottom bracket of a fat bike would then necessitate an even shorter crank with the feet further apart to get the same position as on a regular bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Mike Schiller <[email protected]> Apr 02 09:13AM -0700 Another variable is femur length. It drives people to longer cranks and more seat setback to get a good hip angle. With longer than average femurs (from bike fit sessions) a longer crankarm is a better match, at least for me. I have 175's on all my bikes and prefer that for climbing. It may be because of my mountain bike background but 170's feel odd climbing. It's not something I notice spinning on the flats. ... slightly above avg at ~6ft. ~mike Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[email protected]> Apr 02 10:13AM -0700 I believe our perceptions are altered by the unnaturally narrow selection of crank options. In this world, 170 is the middle; 175 is long; and 165 is short. That is equivalent to mosf bikes being available in 55, 56, and 57 cm frame sizes. Something for everybody! Rambouilleting Utahn <[email protected]> Apr 02 10:38AM -0700 Very interesting observation and comments. I've often wondered if longer would be better for me. To make it more useful could posters include their PBH with their comments. blissfully ignorant at 6' tall spinning on 175s with a 94cm PBH Leslie <[email protected]> Apr 02 11:50AM -0700 Bike A: 172.5 DuraAce triple crank on my Ram. Bike B: 175 Sugino XD triple crank on my Bomba. 6'-tall, PHB of 87.6. I think I'd prefer the 17.5, maybe even a 170, on the Bomba... Garth <[email protected]> Apr 02 12:28PM -0700 Well Patrick, I was using 175's at the time and I started using a mid foot position over the pedal . It felt wonderful but it also felt like I was using really looooong cranks ! I used to use 185's and this felt longer . So that's when the short cranks came to mind. I found some people used short cranks, and some people used a mid foot position, but no one combined them that I heard of ! So .... why not me ? !! It was love at first spin .... lol. ahaahahahahah !! It took a week or so to really dial in the saddle height, which was only about 5-7mm more than with the 175's because with a mid food position you lessen the overall reach to the pedal. It's just so fun to spin *and* have great leverage ! I noticed I was better using what power I do have, and after days of lots of climbs I was never sore-ish the next day like I would often feel before. Now of course .. all this is highly subjective to me ... but nonetheless it's wonderful :) All I can say is try it. start with a mid foot position on one of your bikes and play with it. (You have to lower the saddle a bit on a bike with your regular cranks) . It simply feels super efficient ... almost like more standing on the pedals but you're sitting, but not really(if that makes sense !). All I can say is try it and you'll either experience it or not !! Everyone has their way that works for them. Oh, you need some flat bottomed shoes. Stiffer works better for this .. I use classic Birkenstock Arizona and Bostons. Chaco's would work well too, as would about "boat" style shoe . On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:28:54 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Deacon Patrick <[email protected]> Apr 02 12:44PM -0700 Colorado Patrick here. Riding barefoot I quickly learned midfoot is most comfortable and yes, the difference in power is astonishing. I actually took your post to mean what you describe below, and was puzzled when other's didn't follow. That should likely scare both of us! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 1:28:10 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic) Shoji Takahashi <[email protected]> Apr 02 10:00AM -0700 Hi Manny, I enjoy your pics and write ups. I think you capture great parts of cycling, the Bay Area, and people. A few points if you start selling photos: - You'll need to get permission from people. For example, the Merry Sales catalog cover shows a person who is recognizable, and I think a Model Release would be required. - You may need permission from parks or private areas. - Certain events may require permission (e.g., races). The above starts to get all legal, but when you move into commercial work the personal-use exemption does not apply. One [simple] thing to protect your photos from appearing in print without your permission is to limit the upload size of the image to Flickr. Presently, your account permits download of large (printable) size images. Best wishes, shoji On Monday, April 1, 2013 5:43:31 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: Lyle Bogart <[email protected]> Apr 02 03:42PM -0400 Manny, I can't really offer any advice beyond that which has been offered by others already, but I will take this opportunity to further compliment you on your photography--I always enjoy the photos you post. The Merry Sales cover shot is fantastic and I also like the one along the Nestucca River Road on pg. 6. You have talent, Manny! Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 Recommended 26" tires johnb <[email protected]> Apr 02 07:50AM -0700 Compass tires are amazing smooth and I have had no issues with flats in over a year of commuting on one bike. I have the 1.75" ones on my Atlantis and the 1.5" ones on the Rambouillet (tight fit but they fit). I would highly recommend them. Not cheaper though. PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> Apr 02 09:06AM -0600 John -- Would you mind posting the actual width (and the width of your rime) and the actual height (or diameter) of the Compass 1.5 559 tire? I wonder if they will fit on my '03. Many thanks. -- __________________________________________________________________________ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. http://resumespecialties.com/testimonials.html Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * [email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ Robert Barr <[email protected]> Apr 02 03:22PM -0400 David, I agree with Manny, for commuting Marathons are workhorses. I hate to write this for fear my hubris will bring down the wrath of the tire Gods, but I think it has been 5 years since I had a flat, and that flat was a rim tube pinch as a result of a hurried rim tape job. It reads like you are trying to help someone get started commuting. As a result of multiple swaps I have a pair of fairly new 47-559 Marathons in my garage. If you want them send me your address offline and I will send them to you. No reason to let good tires gather dust. Bob (Indianapolis) You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group rbw-owners-bunch. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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