I've just switched from strava/cyclemete on iphone to a Garmin 305 and 800 (won 
one, the other a gift). 1 computer for all bikes, incl HR, altitude, and power 
if I want (I do). Pretty neat, and long batt life. 

Best Regards,
R Zeidler
Prime Mover

On May 2, 2013, at 9:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

> I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on 
> my iPhone. 
> 
> That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and 
> conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for 
> several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several 
> years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 
> miles in a 70" gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of 
> gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit 
> continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the 
> sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt.
> 
> Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this 
> habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying 
> to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV.
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others 
>> here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your 
>> experiences. Here are mine…
>> 
>> I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the 
>> gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, 
>> rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much 
>> harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly 
>> irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and 
>> keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather 
>> than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort.
>> 
>> The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by 
>> effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I 
>> think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became 
>> based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, 
>> so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving 
>> my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's 
>> idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let 
>> go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I 
>> choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I 
>> ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense.
>> 
>> I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running 
>> either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No 
>> computer, for me, makes it much easier to "Just Ride."
>> 
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>> 
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