Now owning both a Ram & a Saluki I would answer yes, the Saluki is a 650B Ram, or perhaps Romulus. Mine has cantis, which is perfect for me. I would bet the two tube sets are identical. Both of mine are 62's but the Saluki has a slightly longer TT, which eliminates the slight TCO I have with the Ram & Honjos. The Ram is a bit quicker but not faster. The Saluki a bit more stable and comfortable. The Ram does just fine on dirt roads with 29 mm Cerfs, but the Saluki excels at that with Pari Motos. My Ram is set up with lighter wheels, no rear rack, and a CD White crank, which probably accounts for most of the perceived difference.
There are three things about riding I most enjoy and these two bikes excel at them. First, I want to meld with a bike. A great bike feels like an extension of myself. The Ram & Saluki do that to perfection. Second, I revel in the gyroscopic feel of cycling. As I have aged (and I am rapidly approaching ancient!) I more and more realize it is not the absolute speed that provides exhilaration, but the combination of speed, fluidity, and security that produces that feeling of freedom and release. These bikes respond when I step on the gas and they both downhill like rockets on rails. Third, I want a machine that almost seems to disappear under me. No strange noises, no balky shifting, no complaining; just smooth response. Ginger & Fred. How can you tell the dancer from the dance? Oh yea, and then there's that stressless comfort while cruising the countryside. I can't imagine selling either my Ram or my Saluki. The only problem they ever give me is deciding which one to ride! Thank you Grant. Michael On Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:54:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > All this commerce in Rambouillets! I'd be interested to learn particular > reasons why people are selling and why they are buying -- ie, why you want > to get rid of, or acquire, a Ram rather than something else. > > I am beginning to think that the Ram, like the Atlantis and the Quickbeam, > is a definitive Rivendell, ie, it fills a particular niche (pavement, but > capable of modestly wide tires and fenders and of some light, firm dirt) in > a particularly Rivendellian way and therefore has a unique identity. > Perhaps the Roadeo fits this niche, too but is it as versatile while being > better on pavement? I wonder if the Sam is not more of a compromise -- not > hugely more off road capable, not as good on pavement. I wonder if the > Saluki is a 650b Ram? > > Just thinking out loud. > > Patrick Moore, enjoying his third-hand Ram in ABQ, NM > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM, rw1911 <rw1...@gmail.com > <javascript:>>wrote: > >> In light of all the Rambouillets coming up for sale recently, I'd like to >> try and find one in 62cm. Any color, frameset or complete. >> >> In addition to an outright purchase, I'd also be open to trading my blue >> 60cm for your 62cm. >> >> If you have (or know of) one, drop me a line and let's talk. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > patric...@resumespecialties.com <javascript:> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > > Albuquerque, NM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
