Hahaha! That's the impression. "Sure, I'm, uh, 180, but I 'ride light.'"
"We're SEEN you. We've seen you RIDE. Straight gauge it is."

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:23:53 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:04:46 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Whoa. There you go. 
>>
>> My Quickbeam is still my prettiest, bestest bike ever. I've ridden it up 
>> and down steep steep singletrack, long (for me) road rides, and commuted. 
>> Still the bike I'll spend the most money making prettier. If I had 
>> unlimited funds, I'd commission a custom Riv with vertical drops, Atlantis 
>> clearance, and Roadeo tubing. Single it up with a White ENO hub. Lie about 
>> my weight and riding conditions.
>>
> *HA! This is a crack-up. Seriously. Are we that bad? Ha! again--*- 
>
>>
>> A QB by any other name (and 10 years refinement) is still as sweet.
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biketinker.com&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHQ7rECiOZi3g57gDuuurKPduxuag>
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>> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:53:57 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing's ever for sure gone for good, but here's the thing with the 
>>> SimpleBeams (forgive the gross generalizations used to make the point 
>>> without accounting for exceptions. I will use "everybody" not in the 
>>> literal sense):
>>>
>>> Everybody moans the loss of a bike they didn't buy when it was availabe. 
>>> The SB was always the slowest seller of all time, which in itself isn't the 
>>> end of the world, but what it means for us is---it was a cash flow killer. 
>>> We pay fully for 100 of them about two months before they arrive. Then it 
>>> takes a year and a half or two years to sell them. 
>>> One thing that seems to happen is--when something's readily available, 
>>> it's meh...and when it's gone, the heart grows fonder genuinely--and maybe 
>>> people who would have been buyers when the bike was around have just 
>>> learned about it and think hey I'd like that. But there is a small tendency 
>>> to overenthuse about what can't be had. I do it myself with other things in 
>>> my life. 
>>> *Dang, they quit making that ______ I've hemmed and hawed about and 
>>> admired for years, but never wanted enough to buy, but now that I can't buy 
>>> it, shoot!*I don't mean that's rampant here, and I DO like that the 
>>> bikes are so well-liked. Me too. I sold my QB when I needed money, figured 
>>> I could always get a SO, and now they're gone and I want one more than 
>>> ever. So---I'm not just an observer of this phenomenon, but a participant!
>>> If we could pre-sell 30 of them. Paid two-months before they arrive 
>>> (that's when our payment is due), I'd stick my neck out and order 100. This 
>>> time they'd be slightly different, and the danger of this hypothetical 
>>> scenario is that it would open a debate about what's the difference between 
>>> the new and old, which is preferable, then a vote, and it all gets weird 
>>> and half the people who expressed willingness to get a new one now feel 
>>> dis-listened to and bummed because it didn't go that way.
>>> So...i'd be innnnnnerested only if I had free secret rein to tweak it 
>>> this way and that, still resulting in a killer one-speed, but not a clone 
>>> of the SO, which was a clone of the QB. It might be any color, any name, 
>>> any kind of break, any anything. I totally get that ordering semi-blind 
>>> isn't easy to do. The unblind part of the semi is: Track or horizontal 
>>> dropouts angled to allow pad contact over a wide range of chainlengths, 
>>> like QB/SO. Two bottle mounts, rackable. good clearance. Basically Sam-like 
>>> with diff dropouts. Probably sidepulls but could be cantis. A perfectly 
>>> good color, a good name, a nice badge, a really great singler.
>>>
>>> Serious agreers will PM cyclofiend (Jim! So sorry,,,,please forgive 
>>> me...but these  months I have so many kaleidiscopes in my head that I can't 
>>> have another one), and if the list reaches 30 (meaning you'll have $1200  
>>> by Dec 2014 for the frame/fork/headset, and the money won't evaporate in a 
>>> divorce or unforseeable crisis), then we'll get some good frames.
>>>
>>> I have a full plate and I know it seems so bad to say I can't answer 
>>> questions about this, but for the next few months I probably can't. You can 
>>> try, and I'll try, but I'm at my  physicalemotional limit, and ... can't 
>>> promise. If you send a postcard, I'll respond with a postcard.
>>>
>>> Is this all too much? Probably. Sorry again. 
>>>
>>> If nothing happens now, I think the bike will happen again later, but it 
>>> may be an extra year or two.
>>>
>>> I know there are lots of options out there. I'm not trying to make this 
>>> a difficult mystery bike. My crazy proposal......is the only way that makes 
>>> sense for us right now. 
>>>
>>> Thanks..
>>>
>>> Grant
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:09:49 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if anyone knew why these bikes are no longer made. They 
>>>> seem very popular and the people who have one seem very pleased. I have 
>>>> heard several state it is their favorite bike. I assume that the QB went 
>>>> away due to The Lord of the Rings name and became the SO- but why no more 
>>>> SO? 
>>>>
>>>> I assume it was too much of a niche product and too expensive. In other 
>>>> words, not enough people willing to pay the better part of $2,000 for a 
>>>> bike with one (or four) gears. I imagine it must cost as much to make a 
>>>> Sam 
>>>> as a SO but people aren't willing to pay as much for the SO. It seemed to 
>>>> me like even the description of the SO on Riv.com was a little apologetic 
>>>> about the price. 
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know the story here? Willing to speculate? Are they gone for 
>>>> good?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>

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