If eccentric bottom brackets are good enough for Jeff Jones and Sam at Singular, they'll probably work for me. And Niner. They might all use Phil EBBs; not sure. Making all your adjustments at the crank end of things seems to remove a bunch of variables (while introducing seat tube angle and BB height minutia). Always something to obsess over.
Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:12:58 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > One more: As to eccentric BBs, I've researched and there is quite a bit of > scuttlebutt about creaking, loosening -- they apparently have their own set > of problems. > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> I *get* it! Clever! I wish I could try that with the Surly hub on the >> '03, but the axle has caps with little shelves that fit into the dropouts >> -- you have to slide them along the dropout to remove the wheel. >> >> In fact, maybe not so clever: My Phil flip flop also have these "shelves" >> or what have you that fit into the slots -- again, no "drop down" removal. >> >> Is there a hub like that Bill has in mind? >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> Tinker >>> >>> I like the horizontal dropout to allow for correcting chain tension on a >>> single speed. Then, with the wheel in the right position, you dial in the >>> fender. Now that's fixed "forever". You subsequently remove the wheel by >>> removing the bolts from the hub and the wheel drops out. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:35:20 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: >>>> >>>> How would you adjust chain tension? Eccentric BB? White Industries >>>> Eccentric ENO hub? >>>> I'd vote for the BB, to let people run any wheels they want or have. >>>> >>>> Philip >>>> www.biketinker.com<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biketinker.com&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHQ7rECiOZi3g57gDuuurKPduxuag> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:18:49 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm not in the market for a single speed, but if I had a single speed, >>>>> it would likely have fenders. If it had fenders, it would likely have >>>>> correct or close to correct fender line. As such it would be impossible >>>>> to >>>>> remove the rear wheel either rearward with track-like dropouts or forward >>>>> with horizontal road type dropouts. >>>>> >>>>> So, if it were me, I would simply run a good, MUSA rear hub that is >>>>> bolted on with bolts, not nutted on with nuts. The offering from Phil >>>>> and >>>>> Paul and White Industries and Chris King all have these allen bolts. >>>>> Remove the two allen bolts entirely and the wheel drops out of the drop >>>>> out. No more problem. You can have perfect fender line, and can remove >>>>> your rear wheel without deflating it. It will add between 30 and 60 >>>>> seconds to the total amount of time it takes to fix your flat. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:08:08 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I find fat tires (32mm) run into the chainstay bridge on my other >>>>>> fixed gear, so I prefer the track ends. >>>>>> I had SKS fenders with the QRs on the rear as well as the fork. To >>>>>> change the wheel, I just popped the rear stays out of the quick releases >>>>>> to >>>>>> free up the fenders. >>>>>> >>>>>> Philip >>>>>> www.biketinker.com<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biketinker.com&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHQ7rECiOZi3g57gDuuurKPduxuag> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05:42 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One solution for the tire removal issue is to use flat wooden >>>>>>> fenders, which bend very easily outward away from the tire, allowing >>>>>>> easy >>>>>>> removal. 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