"and an ENO is very useful for that. But even the ENO has its liabilities"

Both you and biketinker have attributed an opinion to me that I never 
stated.  I am NOT recommending vertical dropouts for a singlespeed bike.  I 
do think that vertical dropouts are the one and only sensible choice for 
*derailer 
equipped* bikes.  That is my opinion, and that's what I stated.  

I think horizontal dropouts are the most sensible choice for a singlespeed. 
 I am not a fan of the eccentric ENO rear hub.  

The hubs I have personally used that enabled rear wheel "dropping out"

Chris King with their fun bolts (on a custom Independent Fabrication Planet 
Cross)
Paul WORD (spare wheels on same Indy Fab)
White Industries ENO (not eccentric) on a Bianchi San Jose

Only on the Bianchi San Jose did I have fenders.  When I moved to the top 
of a long 12% hill I divested myself of all single speed interests.  


On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:09:02 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> [...]
>> My main point is that for the everybody else who is not so lucky, the 
>> universal solution for getting your wheel out from a perfect fender is to 
>> allow your rear wheel to "drop out".  That's one of the reasons why 
>> vertical dropouts are the thing to have on a derailer equipped bike, in my 
>> opinion.  For bikes that cannot have vertical dropouts, you can still 
>> easily make your rear wheel drop-out with a rear hub with removable bolts.  
>>
>
> I very much agree, and an ENO is very useful for that. But even the ENO 
> has its liabilities: in my own experience, limited take-up (2 cogs max); 
> and crowding the brake bridge on one bike (I had to be careful to rotate 
> the axle downward, contrary to the way it wanted to rotate under the weight 
> of the bike; and, last one, making rear pad adjustment fiddly, since  you 
> have to adjust for the slack and the tight chain positions. 
>
> I think the ENO is a wonderful device, having used two on two different 
> bikes, but it too has its liabilities.
>
> Maybe the solution is an elastic chain!
>
>>
>> What have your "erstwhile Honjos" become?  If they used to be Honjos, did 
>> they become SKF's?  Or perhaps you meant that they were formerly *yours*, 
>> not that they were formerly *Honjos*.  haha ;-)
>>
>
> They transmogrified into Longboards. Not really. They got dumped -- long 
> story. But they did end up in a user's hands, so not a waste. 
>
>>
>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 11:46:09 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> A good fender line is not at all impossible with horizontals. My 
>>> erstwhile Honjos looked perfect on the Curt and wheel removal was not a 
>>> problem (32 mm tires). But I have to admit that this serendipity was just 
>>> that -- by chance.
>>>
>>> -- 
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