I don't get the 10/11 speed negativity being synonymous with Riv culture.
 I see the embrace of older 7/8/9 speed gear being mostly practical as in,
it costs less and does the job, and also in most cases it's compatible with
existing components.

But if I was starting from scratch and the component cost was more or less
the same, I wouldn't have a problem embracing 10 or even 11 speed gear.
 Some people say it's less reliable, but I've already run a 10 speed chain
on a 9 speed setup for many thousands of miles, it's proven it's worth
enough to me.

I guess I'm just practical to a fault.  I would never pay $150+ plus for a
cassette made of unobtainium, but if I can get a reasonably priced one for
$30, the more sprockets the merrier.

I have a set of 10 speed Ultegra brifters that I got for $100 from a friend
of a friend, they were a takeoff from a brand new bike.  The owner was a
woman shorter than 5' with small hands and the Ultegra levers were too big
for her hands so she switched to SRAM PowerTap drivetrain which has
adjustable brifter levers.  I am sure the Ultegra brifters will go on my
Paul Taylor custom one of these days along with a 10 speed cassette and a
10 speed chain and I will not feel the least bit conflicted by it.

-Jim


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Montclair BobbyB <[email protected]
> wrote:

> *Things that changed my thinking:*
> +1 on clothing... No longer get "dressed up" just to ride.  BTW spandex
> make awful rags... gotta figure out how to repurpose that material...
> Pine tar soap... GREAT STUFF.  Vaguely recalled it from ancient times
> (high school art class), but now I use it all the time (thanks to Keven
> Mowen gifting me a bar on a visit to RBW)
> Saddle bags... Never considered them before; now can't live without em
> Proper frame sizing and posture... Always wondered why riding seemed a
> painful chore... like wearing a suit that's too small... THIS has been a
> total game changer for me.
> Dyno-lighting... thanks to improvements in hub dynos and LED lighting, it
> has truly arrived... now standard equipment on my rides
>
> *Still some things I don't quite buy into (but understand their value to
> others):*
> 650B... skeptical that it will last (outside a select few devotees, and
> beyond the new surge in industry hype)... Most of all I'm angry that the
> Hetres 42s don't come in 26 or 700c (so I guess I've got an unfair chip on
> my shoulder about 650B)
> Drops... I own em...but just can't get comfortable down in the drops
>
> *Trends I HOPE will never be embraced by this crowd:*
> 10/11 speed cassettes
> Sloping top tubes (threatens the very aesthetics of the bicycle frame, IMO)
> STRAVA... somebody please just run me over :)
>
> Peace,
> BB
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote:
>>
>> Rivendell reminded me how beautiful lugged frames can be.
>> That a nice bike doesn't have to have dropped bars.
>> That you don't have to wear bike specific clothes.
>> Toe clips and straps are not needed.
>> Kick stands can be very useful.
>>
>> What hasn't and will never work for me, carrying anything behind me.
>> I much prefer my load to be in front in a basket on a porteur rack.
>> 650 wheels are nice but so are 700 it is a wash for me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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