As a further refinement of the blinkie light point, I use them religiously on 
the rear (unless riding in groups, which I do much less frequently than solo), 
but I don't get them on the front - they distract me.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

also for lively, light wheels are more important than light frames.  5 pounds 
on your bike frame is no different than 5 pounds on you - lively acceleration, 
deceleration and handling is in the wheels.

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:31:50 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
yes, but adversity to blinkie lights is without merit - I've seen them work.  
Try riding around any shopping center right now with and without them.

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:00:20 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
Brian, your first point is a great one, and one I hadn't thought about so 
explicitly.

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of stonehog
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:41 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

What works for me:

  1.  Grant and Co.'s business ethics.  I like that he employs 15 folks 
honestly and tries to give back to good causes.  He tries to educate in areas 
we all may need some help in (food/exercise), and he doesn't fit in the 
"maximize efficiency and shareholder value" business model.  He runs the kind 
of business I would be proud to have someday.
  2.  Common sense stuff like don't wear race kit and clipless shoes when you 
are not racing.  I really like the grippy VP pedals of late, and I am a 
long-time clipless rider who enjoys the control of being "locked in".  I just 
found I don't need it when I'm commuting in.
  3.  Steel, lugged goodness.  I like the feel of steel.  Always will.
  4.  Pretty bikes.  Rivendell bikes just look classy compared to most modern 
bikes.  They always draw comments.
  5.  Wool.  Was already clued into this stuff, but I love wool and will wear 
it every day at some point.
  6.  Comfort.  If you love being on a bike, at some point you will want to be 
comfortable doing it.
  7.  No blinky lights.  I think they suck to ride behind, and blinking front 
lights are beyond me.  Please use the blinkies only when you are alone on a 
deserted country street in the middle of the night.
  8.  Helmets - I think this is the biggest deterrent to having more folks on 
bikes.  It may be vain, but things that mess up folks hair or make them feel 
vulnerable will keep them away.  Wear them when you need them, but don't make 
it a law.
  9.  Use what works - don't get crazy about the components.  Campy/DuraAce is 
cool, but not critical.
  10. MUSA - I like USA-made gear.  I also like quality from other countries if 
it's truly good.
  11. Limited selection of great, hand-picked gear.  Riv really picks some 
great product to sell.  I generally love their taste in goods.
  12. Sackville bags.  Hands-down, the best looking and built bags I've used.
  13. Basket/ShopSack.  So useful and simple!
What doesn't work for me:

  1.  Heavy/big bikes.  I appreciate 'em, but would rather have a Roadeo-tubed 
bike than a Bomba.  I like lively.
  2.  Front load on mid-high-trail.  I don't like the wheel flop, but if you 
use a wide-enough bar (Albastaches are awesome), riding with a front load is 
not too bad.  On a narrow bar, long ride, I would prefer less work to keep the 
bike going straight.  This is something that has taken me a few years to 
realize I finally have a feel for.
  3.  Heavy tires.  I like 'em light, and cushy.  Jack Brown Greens are the 
business.  GB Cypres are even better!
Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com<http://www.stonehog.com>

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread.
I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now.
I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them (thought 
I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so much these days). 
I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I started to fear carbon 
failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike.

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