FWIW Patrick ...... If I am unsure of sizing I will by both sizes and 
return the one that doesn't fit.  I've been doing that for years :)   All 
manufacturer sizing really doesn't mean much because there is no universal 
standard , nor could there be as there are infinite body types and body 
part types ! 

You guys must really have some really warm hands to consider these "winter 
gloves" ...lol . 

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