I just HAVE to chime in: I have a reverse pull Shimano derailleur on my Bleriot BUT a standard pull Shimano derailleur on my Bike Friday. I switch between them by (literally) talking to myself about the change when I get on the bike. And I don't make wrong shifts on either bike.
On the other hand, when I ride the Bleriot for a few rides and then switch to my bike with brifters, I do reach for the bar end shifters instead of the brifters, even with my hands on the hoods.
So - TAKE THAT :)
Joan
(This has been explained to SP previously)
"You are doomed. :-) "
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:33:20 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
-- It was you who guaranteed I was doomed the last time I talked up my reverse pull Shimano derailers. At least this time you included a smiley. Wanna guess how many spare rear derailers I have? It's a big number. I just bought three more a couple weeks back on blowout from an online retailer, and I thought of you (take THIS, Steve!). I'm thinking my current stock will probably outlive me. ;-)
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:33:20 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 01/02/2014 05:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> One curiously ironic bit is that I'm a big fan of semi-recent Shimano
> reverse pull rear derailers. Pull the cable means higher gear on both
> the left and the right shifter. I have that set up on two bikes. My
> Pop's Windsor, however, has a normal-pull Suntour rear derailer and a
> REVERSE pull Suntour front derailer! So, on my Pop's bike, pull the
> cable means a lower gear on both shifters. Haha. I'll chuckle about
> it every time I get on. Promise. Maybe I should swap the left and
> right shifters to make the reversal complete. :)
You won't be chuckling when your now-confused reflexes cause you to do
the exactly wrong thing when you're not paying attention. I used to be
a big fan of the reverse pull SunTour front derailleurs, used them for
20 years on all my bikes. Then, 23 years ago I switched. Every so often
even now I still go the wrong way and end up going to the granny when I
meant to go to the big ring. And you're destined for that same sort of
error, and for the same reason: just as the SunTour backwards fronts
went out of production and eventually failed in service, Shimano has, I
understand, discontinued their ass-backwards MTB rear derailleurs. So
down the road, when those reflexes have been thoroughly implanted, you
inevitably will be forced to change back again.
You are doomed. :-)
Imagine how it used to be before the location of the brake and gas
pedals became standardized... "Oops" just doesn't begin to cover it.
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