Run with it, Derek.  We'll be watching...

Paul H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Derek Engelhaupt 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:10 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: Differentials


  Now that the family and I are back from the Caribbean, I can add my two 
cents.  I bought a couple of riding scooter (type used for people that have 
difficulty walking) differentials to play with.  They are a limited slip type 
with a single motor.  They are heavy (15lbs/per differential), but I think the 
heaviness could aide in traction for a battle vehicle.  I was going to play 
with a seesaw type of suspension and use two of them on a vehicle so I could 
get 4 wheel drive.  I do agree that the complexity of the steering and 
suspension of a wheeled vehicle is more daunting that actually creating a 
tracked vehicle.  In order to steer the vehicle, I would need to make one of 
those heavy duty steering servos using a geared motor and a standard r/c servo. 
 Building a wheeled vehicle is pretty low on my list of projects though.

  Derek
  T065




  On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Doug Conn <[email protected]> wrote:

    We talked about self-propelled lawnmower differentials like the ones they 
sell at Surplus Center. It turns out that they cannot go in reverse with some 
mechanical modifications.



    -        Doug



    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of mac wynkoop
    Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:25 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [TANKS] Re: Differentials



    Well, not too long ago I saw a differential on my neighbor's self-propelled 
lawn mower. It looked like it would fit a tank perfectly. Maybe I should ask 
him if he wouldn't mind pushing it again...

    On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Steve Tyng <[email protected]> wrote:


    I have given the subject of differentials in a 1:6 scale r/c combat
    vehicles some thought over the years.  At one point I was interested
    in building an armored car (AC) and may still do so.  I looked at the
    various differentials currently available and have yet to find one
    that I feel is appropriate for our vehicles.  On the heavy end are the
    differentials built for go-karts.  These are to large for a typical
    1:6 scale AC and have monster 3/4" or 1" output shafts.  On the other
    end of the spectrum are the hobby differentials produced for "monster"
    scale r/c trucks.  I've looked at these and weren't impressed with
    there robustness and many plastic parts.  I have seen references to
    differentials for 1/4 scale r/c sand buggy's that sounded good but
    they were on a German site with little info and the pricing looked to
    be exorbitant.  IMO the best option will be a dual motor setup (or
    quad motors for 4wd) driven from one speed controller.  This
    "electronic" differential provides the same functionality as a
    mechanical one in that it provides varying power to the left or right
    drive wheels depending on load.  It can be built as robust as required
    much as we build our drive-trains currently.  The issue will be
    finding the appropriate motors for such a scheme.  The motors will
    need to be relatively powerful and small to fit into the smaller
    chassis.  For this all we need to do is look to the new electric
    skateboard sport where small high-powered motors of up to 600 watts
    can be found.  While on Allellectonics.com the other day I noted a
    nice 135 watt motor that that I have seen used on electric skateboards
    and may prove to be ideal for the smaller wheeled r/c combat vehicle.

      
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/DCM-130/24VDC-135W-MOTOR-W/-BELT-GEAR/1.html

    If I were to start building an AC tomorrow I'd get two of these motors
    and a single reversing scooter controller and design an AC around
    that.


    Steve Tyng


















  

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