I agree with those little "chanels" the guide horns run through... why
not save the effort and run the track through the wheels? seems like
something that is not needed at all... All its doing is reducing
tolerences, lol.

One other thing I have noticed is the amount of "sway" the thing has,
front and rear susspension is far to soft, its not like is has alot of
weight to deal with. Now imagine trying to fire that thing on the move
(remember its main function is to engage targets at high speeds, thus
reducing the need for armour) once you stop to aim your expencive
vehicle is done. Sure it hasnt cost any human lives, but it also hasnt
achived anything other then minor distraction...

I read on another site they got $1.25m from the government. I cant say
if this is acurate or not...

Chris. b

On Dec 31, 10:28 am, Gregory Kampjes <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's the governments budget.
> I don't think the rollers would last very long at all, they look like the
> wheels on my lawn mower. Also the braking system looks a bit exposed and the
> drive system doesn't look all that reliable. After all, aren't our tanks
> notorious for their reliability? (And the fact that we have guns that fall
> out and pop themselves back in and kill other tanks.)
>
> -Gregory
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Steven Crooks
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'd have to say that the Howe and Howe design looks
> > "ok".
> > I really don;t know anything, or have any of the experience
> > of some of the master craftsmen here,
> > but the suspension looks a little iffy to me.
> > (The wheels and track horns/guides look a little small)
>
> > Reliability would be the major issue for such a vehicle,
> > since its supposed to go in harms way.
>
> > I think it was Alan Brook, or Auckinleck who said
> > in India, when ever they got a new piece of equipment,
> > like a mountain gun, they took it to the top of a 100'
> >  tower and threw it off.
> > If it survived, they looked at it a bit more.
>
> > Steven C.
>
> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Steve Tyng <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > From: Steve Tyng <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Tensioned cable tracks?
> > > To: "R/C Tank Combat" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 8:30 AM
> > > Top secret my ass.  Looking at
> > > the pics will give you all the info you
> > > need to duplicate it.  One thing I will note.  If
> > > my fading memory is
> > > right.  The original track on the ripsaw was a pinned
> > > hinge affair. I
> > > guess that didn't work out so well so they came up with the
> > > current
> > > design.  Now I'm not saying they copied anything from
> > > us but the
> > > current Howe track is a TTS built using steel cables
> > > instead of
> > > conveyor belting.  The drive cog also works on the
> > > same principal as
> > > the one on Marc's Leopard and the Cromwell.
>
> > > One issue with the Howe design is how their keeping the
> > > tracks on
> > > track.  The guide horns are riding through "fixed"
> > > steel channels
> > > attached to the bottom of their bogies.  This may work
> > > well in the
> > > swamps I've seen them running in but would wear very
> > > quickly in a
> > > desert environment.  I suspect the channels were an
> > > expedient when
> > > they went to the new track design.
>
> > > If I were to build a cable tensioned track I would build a
> > > big round
> > > jig were the diameter matches the inner diameter of the
> > > track I'm
> > > building.  The inner track pads will be temporally
> > > attached to the jig
> > > using double-sided carpet tape.  The inner track pads
> > > would have slots
> > > cut in them to accept the two cable runs.  I would use
> > > a small
> > > diameter cable such as steel fishing leader and wrap it
> > > around the
> > > pads several times (laying in the slots in the inner
> > > pads).  Once the
> > > cable was in place I'd secure it in the slots with a
> > > flexible adhesive
> > > like Goop or a polyurethane equivalent and during the same
> > > process
> > > place and nail/screw/rivet (your choice) the outer pads in
> > > place.
>
> > > Steve Tyng
>
> > > On Dec 29, 6:29 pm, Tom Lum <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Exactly.  Whenever they mention the tracks, they
> > > claim they are a
> > > > special design and top secret.
>
> > > > Sent from my iPhone.
>
> > > > On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Frank Pittelli <[email protected]>
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Gregory Kampjes wrote:
> > > > >> After looking at the tensioned cable tracks
> > > from Howe & Howe tech, I
> > > > >> wondered if they could be used in RC tanks. I
> > > have a feeling that
> > > > >> they
> > > > >> would work, but how practable would they be?
> > > Would they be too
> > > > >> complex?
>
> > > > > Where did you see the specs/write-up on the track
> > > design?
>
> > > > > I looked on their website and tried to google
> > > them, but I've only been
> > > > > able to find marketing pictures and stuff about
> > > their upcoming show.
> > > > > I'm sure their hype skills are good, but I'd like
> > > to read about their
> > > > > technology.
>
> > > > >    Frank P.
>
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