A bit more done. The square is 200mm square for reference.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/4309247415_120a00201b_b.jpg

regard

Dave

On Jan 25, 3:58 am, Derek Engelhaupt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Changing the sprockets to 35 pitch would be a step backward.  Bicycle chain
> is 42 pitch.  I use a 41 pitch drive sprocket on the drive axle, 41 pitch
> chain, and leave the 42 pitch sprocket on the motor.  Works fine for me.
> Others have changed to a 35 pitch chain, but that requires replacing the
> sprocket on the motor.  41 pitch is narrower (width wise) than 40 pitch and
> 42 pitch is narrower than 41 pitch.  There is some left to right play using
> a 41 pitch chain on a 42 pitch sprocket (on the motor), but since both of my
> motors are mounted independently of each other I have a tensioner in place
> for each motor.  I have had zero issues with the chain coming off even under
> hard loads.
>
> Derek
> T065
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Mark_123521
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > Dave:
>
> >  I bought these motors:
>
> >http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/24-volt-450-watt-brushless-electri...
>
> > I did some testing and they produce 4.5 inch pounds torque per amp.
> > They are rated at 19 amps, so they will produce about 80 inch pounds
> > at full 450 watt rating.
>
> > I am changing the sprockets to a heavier #35 chain.
>
> > Mark
>
> > On Jan 20, 1:53 pm, "[email protected]"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi All
>
> > > Well my Tamiya completely failed to arrive =( So I have been studying
> > > the archives and the build pictures for ideas and to get some sort of
> > > reference on materials and how strength and lightness of build can be
> > > implemented. So my thoughts so far.
>
> > > Hull/Chassis = The base panel in 1/2"ply. Front rear and sides in
> > > 1/4". 1/4" Doublers to beef up corners and where the suspension ends
> > > fit in the hull sides. Formers to partition the space and add
> > > torsional rigidity to the hull. The formers will be 'holed' to reduce
> > > weight.
>
> > > Top = 4mm ply with 6mm doubler 'ring' for the hole where the turret
> > > will sit.
>
> > > Turret = 6mm Base and the rest in 3mm ply unless I bite the bullet and
> > > have ago at a fibreglass molding (possibly)
>
> > > Wheels = Wood, laminated for simple detail with the possibility of
> > > doing an ABS detail molding (possibly) I am going for the friction
> > > drive method with the 'belt' type tracks.
>
> > > Overall I intend to build the 'whole' without detail. If it gets that
> > > far and works then detail pieces can be added.
>
> > > Now I have been trawling for motors ideas but could do with a bit of a
> > > steer as in what are you using, where did you get it, are they readily
> > > available and this is within the UK please. I am looking for 12V
> > > motors and I have found some 12V ones but have no idea as to their
> > > physical size but I do know they aren't geared so this is also
> > > something that needs considering as space for gearing may be needed
> > > and this will have a bearing on the scale of the build and or the
> > > internal layout of the hull structure to suit.
>
> > > carry on sanding!
>
> > > Dave
>
> > > On Jan 19, 8:18 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Now that is a smart idea =D Along similar lines I import PCB patterns
> > > > into my circuit design software. Trace over it with the tracks and
> > > > then adjust or 'redesign' the circuit layout to suit my needs/
> > > > preferences before getting 'my' version printed for toner transfer. I
> > > > have a scanner up in the attic I may dig it out and see what I can do.
>
> > > > regards
>
> > > > Dave
>
> > > > On Jan 19, 8:10 pm, "Morgan, John" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I just scan in the sprues and then scale the scans up in CAD.  I can
> > then trace them (in CAD) to make a pattern and then adjust it as necessary
> > due to materials, size etc.  See my Sherman HVSS sprue attached.  The higher
> > the resolution, the easier it is to scale.
>
> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > John
>
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:04 PM
> > > > > To: R/C Tank Combat
> > > > > Subject: [TANKS] Re: newbie alert!
>
> > > > > Thanks for all the info Chaps!
>
> > > > > I spy 'inexpensive' markers =D An hours running and firing seems
> > adequate. I presume that using PWM speed controllers would give a
> > significant increase, subject to driving style, in duration? I don't think I
> > can afford the PWM method anyway but out of interest......
>
> > > > > With reference to 'tweaking' the scale of portions of the build to
> > suit hardware needs this was used quite a bit with some of the builds (R/C
> > Aircraft) to help with the 'moments' and fitting the glow motors.
> > > > > It's amazing what you can get away with........unless the local
> > 'rivet counter' happens to be in the area =D
>
> > > > > My Tamiya Challenger failed to arrive today and I had my digi
> > calipers, steel rule and protractor ready =D =(
>
> > > > > regards
>
> > > > > Dave
>
> > > > > On Jan 19, 7:20 pm, neroc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Just popping my head up from the sweat and toil of working on
> > phil`s
> > > > > > Hetzer ;0) (To57 for those who dont know) .
> > > > > > A general ballpark answer to your battery question Dave , in the
> > > > > > battles I have been involved in where a 12v tank is used , in this
> > > > > > case my Marder ( To68 ) .One 18 Amp hour will easly last one hour
> > long
> > > > > > battle , possibly longer ,much depends on the way you battle
> > > > > > ,personaly I tend to speed to a safe place and then stay there till
> > i
> > > > > > see fit to move on. not everyone is the same .
> > > > > > I use pairs of 7 or 12 Amp hour batteries at 24 v in my Leopard (
> > To51
> > > > > > ) but if I build another Tank it will be designed to hold 18amp
> > hour
> > > > > > batteries because they can be charged quicker ( High amp chargers
> > > > > > dammage smaller AH batteries im told ). a rough price rule of thumb
> > is
> > > > > > £10 per 6 Amp hour at 12v Redarding fitting Paintball markers and
> > > > > > gravity feed trays into the turrets of 3 feet tanks , I just made
> > me
> > > > > > Leopard turret a little taller than it should be when I encounterd
> > > > > > this problem , not such a crime and the fella who dishes out the
> > > > > > designations is pretty cool about such things . this is a battling
> > > > > > hobby so if your creation looks like the chosen subject vehicle
> > then
> > > > > > thats good enough for the powers that be, thankfully .
>
> > > > > > Phil I am at a point of going to an enginering works to have To57`s
> > > > > > KTS sprockets made . i`ll get in touch .
>
> > > > > > Neil R
>
> > > > > > On Jan 18, 10:34 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Neil
>
> > > > > > > Thanks for the info. I was aware of the minimum 36" and it may
> > well
> > > > > > > be that I change my proposed scale. It is early days and I have
> > to
> > > > > > > also see what hardware I will be using in terms of motors/gearing
> > > > > > > which will give me part of the overall sizing to suit. Once I
> > have
> > > > > > > my Tamiya I will do an outline in my CAD package to also check
> > out
> > > > > > > the turret space with reference to fitting a marker and hopper
> > that
> > > > > > > can depress and elevate. This to will guide the scale selection.
> > > > > > > Building it large just seems right for a Challenger =D I will
> > > > > > > consider the points presented carefully though!
>
> > > > > > > I have been all over the R/C Tank Combat site, it's great! Very
> > > > > > > informative and entertaining with plenty of ideas to pick n mix.
> > My
> > > > > > > Dad was in the 10th Royal Hussars and I spent many a happy day
> > > > > > > during the school holidays running around the hangers and playing
> > in
> > > > > > > and on the armoured cars and being taken out for a run round the
> > > > > > > streets of SWindon =D BTW I am 43 =D
>
> > > > > > > Here's a question with vast parameters-
>
> > > > > > > Using a Tri-pac steering control with a 12V system of an
> > 'average'
> > > > > > > model tank what battery duration can I expect. I appreciate that
> > > > > > > there are many variables that will effect the answer but a very
> > > > > > > 'generalised' idea will do if possible just so I 'know'. I do
> > dabble
> > > > > > > in electronics and have a very successful 'voice modulator with
> > > > > > > sound to light' design that has been picked up by over 60 users
> > > > > > > either in kit, ready built of a complete free manual to show how
> > to
> > > > > > > build one including the PCB pattern to etch your own. If your now
> > > > > > > wondering - This is for the Dalek builders to do 'the' voice and
> > > > > > > drive the dome lights in time with the voice. =D
>
> > > > > > > Here's to the Kings Own!
>
> > > > > > > regards
>
> > > > > > > Dave
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 18, 9:06 pm, neroc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > The UK members are always pleased to welcome new builders and
> > > > > > > > battlers, You will also find excellent help and advice is on
> > hand
> > > > > > > > from experienced builders across the globe.
>
> > > > > > > > I dont know if you are aware but you are not required to build
> > in
> > > > > > > > 1/6 th scale, a three foot minimum tank is all that is required
> > as
> > > > > > > > long as the tanks dimensions fit to ( rough ) scale .
> > > > > > > > A  54.5 inch long challenger will be a cumbersome project to
> > > > > > > > handle during all stages of  building , maintenance and
> >  transport .
>
> > > > > > > > If you havent already I would advise you to take a good look
> > > > > > > > around the rc tank combat site , take a look at the UK battles
> > > > > > > > ,Battlers and Assets , the UK team is called the `KOR` ( Kings
> > Own
> > > > > > > > Regiment )
>
> > > > > > > > Wakefeild !  Pete and me are just down the street :0]
>
> > > > > > > > Neil R
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> ...
>
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