Thanks, my Bosch blue book doesn't have a lot of detail on how exactly
a CVT works, only something about a band that moves between two
cones....  I will find a book that explains it someday.  But I agree,
anytime someone claims an 'order of magnitude' efficiency improvement,
it's time to be skeptical.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Ben Holko <[email protected]> wrote:
> A CVT should not slip, if it does it has too much torque put through it. A 
> 'la it WILL slip if you put more torque through than it can handle. Having 
> said that, there is friction there which is what is stopping it from 
> slipping, while this geared approach has (basically) no friction. Think of it 
> like the gears of a manual gearbox, with the variability of a CVT.
>
> Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Clark Ward Jr
> Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2010 9:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TANKS] Absolute genius
>
> Aren't CVTs less efficient than geared transmissions, given that they are 
> slipping the whole time?  Or do I misunderstand the technology vis-a-vis the 
> slipping belt and the cones of a CVT?
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Don Shankin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Ben Holko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zE__J0YIU
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This thing may revolutionize all transmissions.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Nice concept.  I'm glad they addressed my concern of having to power
>> the second shaft.  I was on board until he said he estimated it to be
>> an _order of magnitude_ more efficient than the current CVT
>> transmissions (not geared transmissions, but CVTs even!).  We'll see
>> where this ends up when you figure in powering that second shaft.  I'm
>> guessing (with no facts or numbers whatsoever) that it will be on par
>> with losses associated with a torque converter (which may be OK
>> because at the end of the day this thing is still a high-torque CVT).
>>
>> -Don "I'm a computer engineer not a mechanical engineer" Shankin
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