A cone-and-belt cvt works like the pulley stacks in a drill press drive. Only, instead of two sets of pulleys, you have two cones and a mechanism to keep the belt taut on those cones. Move the belt one way and you get more torque, less speed. Move it the other, you get more speed, less torque.

-Bill Hamilton

On May 16, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Clark Ward Jr <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, my Bosch blue book doesn't have a lot of detail on how exactly
a CVT works, only something about a band that moves between two
cones....  I will find a book that explains it someday.  But I agree,
anytime someone claims an 'order of magnitude' efficiency improvement,
it's time to be skeptical.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Ben Holko <[email protected]> wrote:
A CVT should not slip, if it does it has too much torque put through it. A 'la it WILL slip if you put more torque through than it can handle. Having said that, there is friction there which is what is stopping it from slipping, while this geared approach has (basically) no friction. Think of it like the gears of a manual gearbox, with the variability of a CVT.

Ben


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clark Ward Jr
Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2010 9:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TANKS] Absolute genius

Aren't CVTs less efficient than geared transmissions, given that they are slipping the whole time? Or do I misunderstand the technology vis-a-vis the slipping belt and the cones of a CVT?

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Don Shankin <[email protected]> wrote:


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Ben Holko <[email protected]> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zE__J0YIU



This thing may revolutionize all transmissions.



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Nice concept.  I'm glad they addressed my concern of having to power
the second shaft. I was on board until he said he estimated it to be
an _order of magnitude_ more efficient than the current CVT
transmissions (not geared transmissions, but CVTs even!).  We'll see
where this ends up when you figure in powering that second shaft. I'm guessing (with no facts or numbers whatsoever) that it will be on par
with losses associated with a torque converter (which may be OK
because at the end of the day this thing is still a high-torque CVT).

-Don "I'm a computer engineer not a mechanical engineer" Shankin

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