Karen Coyle wrote:

<snip>
This choice about attribute and entity needs to be made in the data  
design, not at the point of cataloging, IMO. I'm trying to think of an  
exception to that, and can't come up with one... Where I think we  
*could* have choices, although it is not allowed within RDA, is in  
deciding on the attributes that are associated with an entity. As an  
example, some specialist communities would like to use attributes like  
"colour" in the Work entity, but RDA has it in Expression. Someone may  
want to add an attribute that RDA does not include. In terms of  
systems, this is not terribly difficult using registered elements and  
application profiles. Essentially, as long as the data elements are  
clearly defined they can be used in different relationships without  
losing their meaning. In the past, data was defined by the record;  
today we can define data that can be used in any number of different  
situations and different records. This gives us a freedom we didn't  
have before.
</snip>

Will the distinction between attribute vs. entity be solved in the data design? 
I don't know but I am very skeptical. I personally think it is so complex that 
the data designers will leave it to the drudges to deal with. :-)

But even beyond that, it seems to me as if we should be finding simpler means 
to stay where we are, and if it becomes more complex for us, there should be an 
associated gain both for us and for our users. But here we are adding 
complexity upon complexity to wind up in exactly the same place.

So, here I am, a middle-aged bearded librarian/scholarly-type feeling 
"breathless and giddy" like Alice in Wonderland! I can't resist quoting:

"Now! Now!" cried the Queen. "Faster! Faster!" And they went so fast that at 
last they seemed to skim through the air, hardly touching the ground with their 
feet, till suddenly, just as Alice was getting quite exhausted, they stopped, 
and she found herself sitting on the ground, breathless and giddy.

The Queen propped her against a tree, and said kindly, "You may rest a little, 
now."

Alice looked round her in great surprise. "Why, I do believe we've been under 
this tree the whole time! Everything's just as it was!"

"Of course it is," said the Queen: "what would you have it?"

"Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally 
get to somewhere else - if you ran very fast for a long time, as we've been 
doing."

"A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the 
running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere 
else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
http://urila.tripod.com/Alice.htm

If we're going to go through all of these mental contortions let's at least end 
up someplace that is new!

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