Karen,

not necessarily, I believe.

In German library systems, we're used to linking authority records (mostly for persons and corporate bodies) to bibliographic records, using the authority control numbers as identifiers. The systems are able to extract information stored in the authority records for retrieval. This makes it e.g. possible to use variant names in keyword searching.

It would, on principle, also be possible to have an authority record for every work and link these to the bibliographic records. In this case, there wouldn't be a need to repeat work level information (stored in the authority record) in the bibliographic record. So in the bibliographic record, I would expect to have a link to the work record (corresponding to the data element "work manifested"), but not also a link to the authority record for the author (corresponding to the data element for "creator") - this information would be stored in the authority record. Of course, this wouldn't be true FRBR, as the remainder would still be a mixture of expression and manifestation. It also wouldn't be a true scenario 1 implementation, but rather a mixture between scenario 1 and scenario 2.

Using text strings instead of numbers to express relationships is, to my mind, indeed somewhat archaic. Personally, I find it hard to understand why it is still widespread in MARC systems. But we shouldn't forget that the MARC format already allows for transporting authority control numbers (in subfield $0), although nobody in the Anglo-American world seems to use this option... So maybe it wouldn't be necessary to wait for a true FRBR-modeled carrier for RDA. Linking via numbers is already possible in MARC, as is having authority records for works. So why shouldn't it be possible to upgrade the library systems accordingly, at least as a first step on the way to the "perfect" carrier for RDA data?

By the way: It was just announced that the the implementation of RDA in the German speaking countries will conform to scenario 2. The announcement can be found here (sorry, it's in German only):
http://lists.ddb.de/pipermail/rak-list/2012-June/001983.html

Heidrun



Am 03.06.2012 23:40, schrieb Karen Coyle:
Heidrun,

I've been assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that references to FRBR relationships in RDA, like "work manifested," are essentially unusable until there is a FRBR-modeled carrier for the bibliographic data. I have a similar assumption about things like "identifier for the expression," which really cannot exist until there is a FRBR-modeled carrier that allows -- nay, requires -- those identifiers in order to create the entities and their relationships.*

It makes very little sense to me to be creating a text string for these relationships which have to be machine-actionable in order to have the scenario 1 data structures.

kc

*Hopefully without diverting this discussion, I think there is a difference between the system identifier for the expression *entity* and a string, like an ISBN, that might be considered to identify, or partially identify, an entity in the bibliographic description through its use in various contexts.

On 6/3/12 7:51 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote:
I am mulling over the data element "work manifested" in the examples for RDA bibliographic records released by the JSC some time ago: http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC_RDA_Complete_Examples_%28Bibliographic%29_Revised_2012.pdf

For instance, look at the example for Arlene Taylor's "The organization of information" (book 1, p. 10): There, you'll not only find the data element "creator" (Taylor, Arlene G., 1941-), but also the data element "work manifested" (Taylor, Arlene G., 1941-. Organization of information). Note the beautiful footnote: "No equivalent encoding in MARC 21". In the earlier version of these examples wich accompanied the full draft of 2008, this data element wasn't there at all, and its appearance now strikes me as rather odd.

Granted: "Work manifested" (17.8) is a core element in RDA (cf. 17.3: "When recording primary relationships, include as a minimum the work manifested."). But in 17.4.2, three conventions for recording primary relationships are outlined, and I believe that only the first and the second presuppose "work manifested" as a single data element: For these two methods, an identifier for the work (method 1) or the authorized access point representing the work (method 2), respectively, are used.

The third method, however, does not seem to require one single data element "work manifested": "Prepare a composite description that combines one or more elements identifying the work and/or expression with the description of the manifestation." So, in this case, the identification of the work is achieved by one or more elements which really belong on work level, although in the record they are mixed together with information on manifestation level. Typically, these will be the data elements for the first "creator" and for the "preferred title of the work" (vulgo: uniform title). I'd argue that in cases where there's no need to determine a uniform title (e.g. if there is only one manifestation of the work in question), the title of the manifestation can be used instead.

The RDA example for "book 1" mentioned earlier follows this third method for recording primary relationships, i.e. it is a "composite description", which basically looks like the conventional MARC record. Therefore, I find it hard to understand why the information about the work manifested is given _twice_ in the same record: Once _implicitly_ according to method 3 (by giving the data elements "creator" and "title proper" as part of the composite description) and a second time _explicitly_ according to method 2 (by giving the authorized access point representing the work).

Shouldn't it be either the one (in a composite description) or the other (in a different implementation scenario for RDA, something closer to scenario 1)? As it stands now, the information given seems to be redundant.

Any ideas?

Heidrun




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